I personally prefer Trickle Down Markism

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    That makes them wrong, not "class reductionist", and should be rebutted appropriately (that race and class are inextricably intertwined in a society that is literally built on the foundation of white supremacy), not beaten over the head with a rhetorical bludgeon invented by grifters and wreckers.

    Because that is all "class reductionist" is. A rhetorical bludgeon, that neatly avoids an actual discussion of how race intersects with class in American society.

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    It's exactly like the word "tankie", which is another mere rhetorical bludgeon, designed to shut down conversation, which can mean literally anything ranging from a right-wing neoliberal to a Stalinist depending on the speaker thus becoming entirely meaningless, and is effortlessly appropriated by liberals trying to attack the actual left

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It’s exactly like the word “tankie”, which is another mere rhetorical bludgeon, designed to shut down conversation, which can mean literally anything ranging from a right-wing neoliberal to a Stalinist depending on the speaker thus becoming entirely meaningless, and is effortlessly appropriated by liberals trying to attack the actual left

      The term 'tankie' from what I remember, started out on Facebook around 2015 and was used to by reactionary leftists to just label Marxist-Leninists (or Stalinists as they labeled them, though anyone that has read Stalin and Lenin knows there is no 'Stalinist', he represented M-L ideology) as "tankies" to completely discredit them. It grew and grew as the years went by.

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        AFAIK "tankie" arose at some point during the Cold War within the left to disparage support for the Khrushchevite/Brezhnevite revisionists after the Hungary and Czechoslovakia interventions, but who knows it might be retroactive historical revisionism in action. But I'm pretty sure the term predates 2015 at least.

        But yeah while I used the term "Stalinist", another rhetorical bludgeon that isn't an actual ideology, I meant it in the most literal sense as "partisan supporters of Stalin", which is the only appropriate use of the term unless you're directly quoting another source.