I personally prefer Trickle Down Markism

  • NorthStarBolshevik [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I suggest reading up on your US labor history. The white working class was almost always willing to exclude black workers to advance their own status in society. They chose racial solidarity over working class solidarity.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I read plenty about US labor history. That's not class reductionism, that's literally the opposite of class reductionism. That's race being used by the bourgeoisie, by racists, and by liberals to divide the working class and pit them against each other. That's literally an example of why connections MUST be made between race and class, why class unites everyone of all races, why those of all races and creeds share a common struggle because of class.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I read plenty about US labor history. That’s not class reductionism, that’s literally the opposite of class reductionism. That’s race being used by the bourgeoisie, by racists, and by liberals to divide the working class and pit them against each other. That’s literally an example of why connections MUST be made between race and class, why class unites everyone of all races, why those of all races and creeds share a common struggle because of class.

        100% agree. Class unites everyone. There is a reason liberals in western countries push ID-POL so hard. It divides the left into so many subgroups and it pits us all against each other with infighting over who has it worse. In the end, the left don't accomplish anything cause they're too busy cannibalizing each other with infighting (which is the goal!). On the flip side, the far right unites and grows.

        This is precisely why I don't believe we'll ever see a revolution in the US, or UK and Canada for that matter. The real left (as in M-Ls or anything that could be revolutionary) is too small to take on the task of a vanguard party rising to prominence. Liberal identity politics has done it's job dividing up the left into all these subgroups and pitting us against one another with infighting. While that happens, the far right has been organizing for decades and they'll be ready when shit hits the fan and we approach collapse in the following years. There isn't going to be a vanguard cause the left is so small here.

        This sub is proof why I have no hope in a revolution. "Talk to libs, go radicalize libs!" People here are so scared to talk to actual working class people cause they've bought into the liberal propaganda BS about how the "white working class" all voted for Trump or are right wingers, despite the glaring evidence through years that people of low income usually don't vote at all and are disillusioned by the system. We are to a point now where capitalism has reached such insane levels of exploitation that the divide between rich and poor has never been greater, but who cares about that? Radicalizing libs is more important according to many on here.