Never said Marx was obsolete, quite the opposite, I said your conception of class (and by extension Marx) is wrong, which is why you keep running into these deadend takes, when it comes to class you ignore its social dimensions, you ignore its historical dimensions and then posit a static version of class struggle bereft of the developmentism inherent in Marxism
It's cherry-picking designed to minimize the social aspect of the class struggle which are the defining aspects of our time
I am literally talking about the social dimensions of class struggle throughtout
To be more direct, stop gesturing insistently at something hidden under a tarp, and show what's under the tarp. You are continuously claiming that I am missing or misinterpreting some crucial context - such as the "social dimension of class struggle". Yet, despite my apparent inability to grasp this oh-so-sacred concept, you are not deigning to actually explain what this is in our patented condescending fashion, and how it departs from what I am saying.
I'm not infallible. I am not black. I am not female. I am not homosexual or transgender. Perhaps I am indeed missing some crucial context, context that is not readily evident in theory but much more so in lived experience. Please enlighten me. I insist.
stop gesturing insistently at something hidden under a tarp, and show what’s under the tarp
What fucking "tarp" it's literally as simple as getting a coherent definition of class instead of your weird mechanistic version of it, FIX your fundamentals and everything else will follow, I guarantee it Marx will start making a lot more sense to you when you recognize the role sociology plays in class dynamics
you are not deigning to actually explain what this is in our patented condescending fashion, and how it departs from what I am saying.
The fact you would tolerate racism and homophobia within your hypothetical working class coalition IS YOU dismissing the social dimension of class out of hand, that shit would never fly in the real world, the minute a minority member encounters that bigotry is the moment your movement is shot, to entertain the idea that anything other than that outcome would be likely, is idealism of the highest order and all you have to offer to counter that alienation of a large segment of the working class is "get the fuck over it"
Bruh we tried that shit during the second international it was a fuckin disaster, good luck duplicating that stellar success
Never said Marx was obsolete, quite the opposite, I said your conception of class (and by extension Marx) is wrong, which is why you keep running into these deadend takes, when it comes to class you ignore its social dimensions, you ignore its historical dimensions and then posit a static version of class struggle bereft of the developmentism inherent in Marxism
It's cherry-picking designed to minimize the social aspect of the class struggle which are the defining aspects of our time
I am literally talking about the social dimensions of class struggle throughtout
To be more direct, stop gesturing insistently at something hidden under a tarp, and show what's under the tarp. You are continuously claiming that I am missing or misinterpreting some crucial context - such as the "social dimension of class struggle". Yet, despite my apparent inability to grasp this oh-so-sacred concept, you are not deigning to actually explain what this is in our patented condescending fashion, and how it departs from what I am saying.
I'm not infallible. I am not black. I am not female. I am not homosexual or transgender. Perhaps I am indeed missing some crucial context, context that is not readily evident in theory but much more so in lived experience. Please enlighten me. I insist.
What fucking "tarp" it's literally as simple as getting a coherent definition of class instead of your weird mechanistic version of it, FIX your fundamentals and everything else will follow, I guarantee it Marx will start making a lot more sense to you when you recognize the role sociology plays in class dynamics
The fact you would tolerate racism and homophobia within your hypothetical working class coalition IS YOU dismissing the social dimension of class out of hand, that shit would never fly in the real world, the minute a minority member encounters that bigotry is the moment your movement is shot, to entertain the idea that anything other than that outcome would be likely, is idealism of the highest order and all you have to offer to counter that alienation of a large segment of the working class is "get the fuck over it"
Bruh we tried that shit during the second international it was a fuckin disaster, good luck duplicating that stellar success