itll be 9/11 but all the time. the world would descend into fascism and barbarism due to white backlash at a string of consistent, mass casualty, terrorist attacks. the arab world might actually unite into one state in retaliation, they came close to it with the advent of israel but with the destruction of mecca it'd be a given.
I think that's too optimistic. There are enough contradictions and a tug of war between the ruling cliques of the Arab countries to prevent any such solidarity from going further than empty populist declarations. The American surveillance state has also gotten only more powerful since 2001, 9/11 itself having been entirely preventable but allowed to proceed for obvious reasons. And we haven't even gotten into the sheer devastation the US can dish out militarily should the Arab nations actually unite (although even then they simply lack the hardware [and training] for any serious projection of power to threaten the US mainland). There's very little even such a developed country as China can do atm if the US decided to cripple them as a punishment. Unfortunately :(
I'm not deeply knowledgeable about today's baathist organisational structures in the middle East and North Africa but maybe you are - do you think it will realistically amount to more than aimless riots? That said, my main argument was that even if every Muslim country came together to form some geopolitical superstructure (so just for the sake of argument let's even include impossibilities like Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Somalia, all the West African countries and even the Muslim former Soviet republics) where would they get the ability to mount an expeditionary force to take the fight to the US? Hell, it seems even taking on the EU and not suffering defeat would be a stretch. I mean I'm all for it, I'm all for depriving the imperial West of its raw resource base, but I just don't see how it's realistically possible before the imperial core has deteriorated much further than it has now.
And then? What can those 1.8 billion people do that could even put a minor dent in the works of empire? Nothing.
itll be 9/11 but all the time. the world would descend into fascism and barbarism due to white backlash at a string of consistent, mass casualty, terrorist attacks. the arab world might actually unite into one state in retaliation, they came close to it with the advent of israel but with the destruction of mecca it'd be a given.
I think that's too optimistic. There are enough contradictions and a tug of war between the ruling cliques of the Arab countries to prevent any such solidarity from going further than empty populist declarations. The American surveillance state has also gotten only more powerful since 2001, 9/11 itself having been entirely preventable but allowed to proceed for obvious reasons. And we haven't even gotten into the sheer devastation the US can dish out militarily should the Arab nations actually unite (although even then they simply lack the hardware [and training] for any serious projection of power to threaten the US mainland). There's very little even such a developed country as China can do atm if the US decided to cripple them as a punishment. Unfortunately :(
i dont think you understand. people overthrew their old governments with baathist governments with the advent of israel
I'm not deeply knowledgeable about today's baathist organisational structures in the middle East and North Africa but maybe you are - do you think it will realistically amount to more than aimless riots? That said, my main argument was that even if every Muslim country came together to form some geopolitical superstructure (so just for the sake of argument let's even include impossibilities like Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Somalia, all the West African countries and even the Muslim former Soviet republics) where would they get the ability to mount an expeditionary force to take the fight to the US? Hell, it seems even taking on the EU and not suffering defeat would be a stretch. I mean I'm all for it, I'm all for depriving the imperial West of its raw resource base, but I just don't see how it's realistically possible before the imperial core has deteriorated much further than it has now.