https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1827474244856365440.html

  • PigPoopBallsDotJPG [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    Unrolled thread because why the fuck would you have a shitter account"

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1827474244856365440.html

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    3 months ago

    Wait wait so the current government can just choose to indefinitely ignore election results? Nice democracy you got there France

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      Yes because the 5th republic’s constitution was written by degaulle post war which give some veto power as the president.

      But let’s not blame De gaule for all the ills in the world all the parties uses anti-democratic means to advance using the constitution.

      Mitterand from the socialist party will prop up the rightwing to steal votes from the communists or even the center right in elections.

      The constitution is not working but no winner is going to dissolve the means in which they use to come into power.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        But let’s not blame De gaule for all the ills in the world

        If the opportunity exists we should take it.

        • arymandias [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          He basically took the Weimar constitution because it succeeded at its main goal of stopping the communists from ever taking power.

      • pbbp [tous, any]@jlai.lu
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        3 months ago

        It's actually a lot worse, the immediate post-ww2 period was still the 4th republic. The 5th republic's constitution was made in 1958, after a coup during the Algerian war of independance led by french settlers and the army that put De Gaulle back in power.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    The loser president gets to pick the next prime minister

    Lmao what the fuck is that

    How does that shit gets to be called "democracy" for fuck sakes

    Yes, us-foreign-policy I know

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    Polls show that liberals are more opposed to democracy than even the far right is

    Liberals like Democracy™ which is when liberals are in charge. Convenient that.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      3 months ago

      Exactly, the libs managed to thoroughly discredit themselves over the past two years showing that they don't actually believe in any of the principles they espouse.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        For sure, but specifically liberals are more likely to agree with ideas like competency tests for voting, and having structures in place that make change through democratic means harder, like having a senate that gives more power to rural areas and has a longer election cycle that makes actually changing it take much longer.

  • Nationalgoatism [any]
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    3 months ago

    Will the "pro democracy" liberals condemn this and call for sanctions against macron?

    • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      ACKSHUALLY, the NFP only won because Russian bots influenced the election. I don't have any actual proof of this, but vibes have never let me down before. Therefore their victory was undemocratic. morshupls

      • Nationalgoatism [any]
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        3 months ago

        The French people yearn for freedom. President Putin, please impose a no fly zone over Paris

  • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    Dude not everyone has a xitter account just copy or screenshot the thread or at least give a brief summary ty

    • heggs_bayer [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      There's also xcancel.com or nitter.privacydev.net, which are nitter instances that aren't run by chuds like poast is.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    3 months ago

    lmao melenchon suggesting no LFI ministers was a huge capitulation and Macron wouldn't even take that?

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    3 months ago

    And since some people may argue that it is unprecedented during a "cohabitation" scenario when the election happens in the middle of a presidential mandate and the winners aren't from the president's party, that's NOT true either.

    The French are trying to do "you can't replace Antonin Scalia during an election year" to ignore an actual election. Incroyable.

  • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    So are we going to see as many threads about this as we do Venezuela in the Western press?

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Real coup with knives and heads on pikes and fighting in the streets or boring lib coup?

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      3 months ago

      France has a very powerful presidency because of that rotten De Gaulle, and relies like all strong-presidency republics, on nobody calling the bluff and pushing the limits of that power. Macron is doing so in order to prevent the formation of a left-wing government.

    • Skunk@jlai.lu
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      3 months ago

      Link given in the comments here, in english, easy to understand and very interesting (I learned things even if I'm French): https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1827474244856365440.html

      • Macron lose to the left alliance
      • Call for truce during Olympics
      • Olympics are finished since 2 weeks, still no decision made except "not those guys from the left LFI party"
      • Find all kind of dumb excuses to reject left prime ministers candidates
      • LFI ask if they guarantee not one of them will join the government, would you finally accept the global left prime minister (Lucie Castet) ?
      • Unintelligible mumbles
      • ???
      • Profit