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Libs: "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT THERE'S GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG, AND IF YOU DARE TO BRING UP THE LACK OF EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT OF ABUSE FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS YOU'LL GET BANNED!!!!"

Also libs: "Didn't you know that 15k of the 40k humans murdered in Gaza were actually terrorists? it-is-known Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it's sad but inevitable"

smuglord

Fuuuuuuuuuck this shit.

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it’s sad but inevitable”

    But when you tell them Ukraine war is probably the least deadly for civilian* wars in last over century with military to civilian deaths ratio being like 50 to 1 they will get incredibly mad.

    *From 2022 when ukronazi army got pushed from most of Donbas, in 2014-feb.2022 majority of victims were civilians in Donbas.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      5 months ago

      They'll say it's because Ukraine are wholesome 100 Marvel heroes who protect their people while Hamas uses human shielderinos.

    • kittin [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Ukraine genociding themselves by sending the few thousand males of child-rearing age they still have to the front without training

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        I remember some serious discussions (in context of WW1 and War of the Triple Alliance) if doing something like this, especially in a prolonged war with already known consequences should be called genocide of government on their own nation.

        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          Didn't Ukraine deliberately draft a lot of people from their eastern oblasts specifically for the reason that they were more expendable and also not-really ukrainians anyway?

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            5 months ago

            Yes. They fucked up though because at the start they send a lot of those units to strongarm Donbas, i have no idea if they just didn't give a shit or sadistic nazi brain got dopamine kick on the thought of using untermensch to opress their own families, but entire units in some cases defected, forming the core of Donbas militias and turning what was supposed to be rollover and demonstration of power into actual civil war.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        I mean UN reported around 10000 dead civilians for entire war (edit: since Russian intervention in 2022) last year with military deaths already estimated on at least 250000 and possibly even 500000, it was on the wiki about the war when i last checked (to be fair it was some time ago, but the ratio should hold for the last year or even increase on the side of military since there were some really fierce fights since then)

        • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
          hexagon
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          5 months ago

          Ok, I didn't know any numbers about the casualties. Thank you for the context and for the sources, comrade

          • keepcarrot [she/her]
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            5 months ago

            Remember that a casualty is not a death, but media will conflate the two freely