https://xcancel.com/the_ason/status/1832226873155129688

  • weeen [any, any]
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    3 months ago

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    This is honestly just sad..

    • heggs_bayer [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      You just know this person thinks that the USSR was an evil empire despite having a larger role in defeating the Nazis by several orders of magnitude.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      I will bet dollars to donuts this person is the exact kind of person who chortles with zero reflection at the "Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted" quote.

    • Venat [he/him, any]
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      3 months ago

      Reaching 80 years in the past as if history was suddenly 1946 -> 2024.

      • OrionsMask [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        In their defense, they don't know any other historical events, so there must not be any.

        As an aside, Americans love to gloss over the fact that the US nuked two cities full of civilians. Even in the one instance in the past 80 years that they're on the right side, they still can't help being evil bloodthirsty demons.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Worth noting that the conventional bombing campaigns against other cities had already been going on for over a year and killed more people than the nukes (though the nukes did have a higher percentage of people in the bombing zone killed).

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      I heard that Ted Bundy once donated money to charity so... reflect on that one, leftists.

    • weeen [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      I was wondering why he was always getting attacked by They want to critique power!!! people on twitter, I need to actually watch his videos.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        3 months ago

        his "Dropping the Bomb" about how the atomic bombings of japan were just unecessary atrocities and preemptive aggression towards the soviets as well as cutting them out of peace deals with japan

        its great, I've watched it several times and its great info, in a horrible horrifying way

      • Hestia [comrade/them, she/her]
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        3 months ago

        He's probably my favorite video essayist. Does a breakdown of the timeline leading up to Hiroshima and Nagasaki as part of his argument against nuclear annihilation of the Japanese.

        • Hexboare [they/them]
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          3 months ago

          Actual reads the fucking meeting minutes which are readily available online instead of just doing a vibes analysis

      • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        Genuinely that skull is the first major domino in my move left, specifically his videos responding to weirdo skeptic talking head youtubers and his breakdown of the Trayvon Martin case. I was some sort of lib at the time, trying to both sides things, which I saw as peak reason at the time because I was in a deeply conservative environment. Always love me some Shaun.

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        The videos are pretty good, but the main reason is that he correctly criticises voting blu no matter who as a tactic on twitter. He has been doing that for a while so a lot of these people hate him.

        They are also mad that he is doing it while being foreign, which is a grave insult.

        • weeen [any, any]
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          3 months ago

          a FOREIGNER critiquing US foreign policy...outrageous!

  • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    Shaun is one of those weirdos who thinks that the US is this evil dystopian empire

    witness it, hexbears. This is what leftist propaganda should look like. It pretends to be the enemy, states a reality that anyone would struggle to disagree with, and tries to imply the reality is false. This produces the effect of 1) stating the reality that you want to have recognized and 2) making the enemy look like a dumbass

  • christian [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    I feel like this doesn't need a breakdown, but the way Shaun is phrasing this suggests that Biden's motive is bloodlust. If, by some bizarre hypothetical, Israel shifted to some other atrocity, maybe imagine an abstract environmental horror that will only begin to effect people generations after he's gone, if it's something else, Biden is not bothered that Palestinians are no longer dying. He simply does not care about them in any way shape or form. They are numbers. Same goes for the "see you dead" bit, a poor person dying is a number.

    What he's saying isn't wrong, but it's phrased to suggest bloodlust when it's really a consequence of seeing poor people's deaths as a statistical change.

    Biden has the power to change things here, the distinction isn't actually important in his case. But people are going to be upset with the implication of bloodlust because all of us reading are living lives where (unlike Joe Biden), seeing deaths of people we've never met as statistics is a coping strategy for living in this world. We've lived that our whole lives and it's hard to imagine different. But if one of us is feeling bloodlust, that needs to be addressed.

    In conclusion, anyone upset with Shaun's tweet is guilty of humanizing Joe Biden too much. Humanizing someone else, anyone else, is a natural thing to do and it should be expected that people will react badly to this tweet. Yeah, you can think things through, but that doesn't change what a normal gut reaction is going to be here.

    • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      I don't think he should care about people's gut reactions. The genocide is actively harmful to America's imperial interests and Biden's own ambitions for the middle east (normalisation between Israel and Saudi Arabia for example). It's harmful to most capitalists except for the weapons goons. I don't think it's accurate to say that what is happening is simply because of an inability to see Palestinians as human and thus not caring about their extermination because they stand in the way of some logical goal. That logical reason exists for the vassal state, of course, but many vassal states have desires that the Americans will not allow them to indulge.

      We have no reluctance to look at many historical genocides and to determine that blood lust and racial animosity were primary drivers. Why should this one be different? We have, on record, some of the most bloodthirsty comments ever publicly made by government officials in Israel, we know that beyond the pragmatic desire to control greater territory, Israel is in the grip of a violent mania. Why should that not extend to the one essentially telling them to do it?

      • christian [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I guess putting more thought into this, I'm posting because I have imagined some standards for what deserves to be posted to this comm that I barely pay attention to and want to complain loudly that this is low-hanging fruit. Really every community needs someone butting in from time to time to say "Have some dignity people!"

          • christian [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            I think I envisioned the difference between the comms as being determined by the societal status of the person saying the bullshit or the traction it gets, and not the by potency of the bullshit itself. This has minimal potency. Have some dignity people!