https://x.com/MahyarTousi/status/1832017472943174081

Endless quote tweets and responses just mindlessly agreeing. Quite baffling.

  • daniyeg [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    if anyone's lips touches a drop of alcohol they instantly convert to christianity. everyone here knows that.

    EDIT: also holy shit islamic "occupiers" is such a dog whistle lmao.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Iranians are theological authoritarians, but they also follow supply and demand principals and shut down mosques because people are openly refusing to be muslim

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      2 months ago

      Supply and demand supercedes all. It is the law of the universe that cannot be resisted mega-rich-light-bending-guy

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        And then you learn about economics and it's actually like, not even a real, consistent thing at all because real economies are absurd and the idea of "supply and demand" is just a vague rule of thumb guess as to what'll probably happen when you change something, but you can just as easily get rising demand from rising supply (as something becomes accessible and popularized), falling demand from falling supply (because people can just get something else), unpredictable effects from related changes in cost or availability (like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable), and effectively random changes from shifts in consumption or production of entirely unrelated things.

        Basically everything they teach people about economics below a post grad level (and by that point someone's in too deep to catch just how groundless all the pure ideology they've been taught is) is just flat out wrong to the point of being not just an oversimplification but outright incoherent lies. It's like if Biology as taught in grade and high schools was interested primarily in doing dog breed race science with a handwaved "and other things are like this too, because that's intuitively correct to believe" and taught that cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time and that was somehow supposed to form a workable framework for anything and also that was literally the hegemonic state-sanctioned ideology.

        • Thallo [love/loves]
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          2 months ago

          cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time

          Omg I understand biology now tails-what

        • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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          2 months ago

          (like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable)

          just in case someone doesn't understand this:

          • streaming service reduces fees
          • person now has more money
          • uses it to build a computer
          • now spends their time gaming
          • questions why they even have the streaming service
          • cancels
          • an eagle named "supply and demand" sat atop the chalk and shed a tear
          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            2 months ago

            The real world example I've seen cited for that is potatoes as a staple food being partially replaced by meat or other comparative luxury foods as their price fell because having to spend less on potatoes to survive meant people could buy a small amount of meat and so didn't need as many potatoes.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Edit: Holy shit I hadn't read the last sentence

    Uh, if this derangement means they wont cheer for nuclear war with Iran like libs do, eh lets welcome it

    • LeZero [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Honestly, feels more like some kind of They'll greet us as liberators! kind of vibe

    • daniyeg [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      yeah they are still around. one of my friends was Zoroastrian. thanks to people's interest in them they are not doing badly but they still face the difficulties minority religions in iran have, their membership is dwindling and when your ethnic-religious identity is wrapped up in fascist fantasies of pure aryanhood it tends to attract a certain type towards you.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        when your ethnic-religious identity is wrapped up in fascist fantasies of pure aryanhood it tends to attract a certain type towards you

        what-the-hell that sucks so much

        • daniyeg [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          from people mimicking your prayers and customs in their weddings so that they can have "aryan" marriages to chud podcasters saying we should hang akhunds from every lamp post while your religious iconography is plastered all over the background, yeah it does suck.

          to a lesser extent this is also true about christians although that's mostly contained to people celebrating christmas outside of churches at 12 am and causing a ruckus lol.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      2 months ago

      Regardless of active participation in the religion, Zoroastrianism has lasting effects on Iranian culture that people passively observe in the same way that Buddhism and Taoism remain relevant in China

  • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Where do they cook up these numbers? I can never find a source, and whenever I bring that up they always say that the IRI is censoring it.

    I don't mean to be one of those people, but can we start mandating Intro to Logic for all religious people? At least the Christians because it's annoying when they say this shit.

    • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      its truly amazing how there's only like 12 muslims left in Iran but the regime continues trucking onward. maybe muhammad was right.

      • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        It's insane! It's like North Korea! Everyone is inside a camp since whenever one guy gets sent the regime sends his whole extended family!

        There absolutely no videos where north Koreans are roaming the streets doing normal shit!

  • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of young Iranians are disillusioned by Islam because of their government. I certainly don’t see it out of the realm of possibility that there are lots of converts although Christianity is still at like 1% of the country. A drop in a bucket for now.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 months ago
      1. There's zero evidence Christians aren't just some tiny minority in Iran.

      2. Why would disillusionment over Islam make people convert to Christianity and not just, you know, be secular?

      • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        To add to point number 2: I don't know any Iranians who are disillusioned who didn't just drop religion all together

        Christians constantly do this shit, simultaneously oppressed but also on the rise in the millions for any given country.

        It's a pathetic thing.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        Why would disillusionment over Islam make people convert to Christianity and not just, you know, be secular?

        Same reason western kids hailed satan for about 7 years before graduating high school

      • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago
        1. That’s exactly what I said lol
        2. because some people seek alternative groups, and Christianity is legal in Iran.

        Hell, my ex-girlfriend from over 10 years ago is Iranian and her whole family converted to Christianity. Guess I should have asked why but I guess I don’t really care

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      2 months ago

      I certainly don’t see it out of the realm of possibility that there are lots of converts although Christianity

      I certainly don't see it out of the realm of possibility that everyone in Japan converts to Mormonism, it's still a ludicrous deranged claim to advance let alone take seriously

      • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        It’s the second largest minority in Iran. There’s plenty of articles out there about it. Here’s one from an Arabic source so it should have less bias towards Christianity

        https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-intelligence-ministry-summons-iranian-who-showed-interest-in-christianity-/29921102.html

        • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          Here’s one from an Arabic source so it should have less bias towards Christianity

          Why would the source being "Arab" have less bias towards Christianity? Not all Arabs are Muslims, and the middle eastern population of Muslims makes up ~20% of the global Muslim population.

          Edit: "Radio Farda is the Persian language broadcaster at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, "

          "Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, an independent news company which receives a grant from the U.S. Congress through the United States Agency for Global Media."

          Your source is absolutely biased btw. This is from their about page. Also: bateman-business-card lol at confusing Arabic with Farsi.

          • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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            2 months ago

            I’m not sure if you’re purposefully being dense but only 5% of the Arabian population is Christian.

            Like I said there are many articles that exist out in the wild. Don’t be a tool.

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            • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              could you use that free search and find us something that isn't radio free cia

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              2 months ago

              Bro you're the one who believes there's some secret mass conversion to Christianity in Iran, like who the fuck are you calling "tool" while believing that deranged nonsense

              Do you even hear yourself, lmao?

            • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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              2 months ago

              Arabs outside the middle east that have moved aren't included in your estimate, dumbass. Arab Christians move out of the middle east at higher rates than Muslims, Darze, etc.

              Also your source is still dogshit and is absolutely biased, you still didn't address that.

              • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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                2 months ago

                You sound like an angry little man. Guess that’s why you’re here trying to be Tommy toughnuts online.

                You’re addressing things I never mentioned. Put your Doritos down and try to follow the conversation.

    • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      I think most orthodox groups of zoroastrians outright don't, not just because of an ethnic component but because of a religious-philosophical notion that whatever religion you are is what is intended for the world. So it's even less of a missionary religion than Judaism. It's only now-ish that a counter movement from certain groups is forming, as they realize the religion is nearly dead.

      Ngl 'iranian' people who are actually canadian or australian seem to nurture the most insane of world views. For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

      • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

        There are so many ethnic/ racial groups within Iran; azeris, Kurds, Arabs, Persians, balochis, etc. Persian is 50% roughly depending on your source. Not only that but calling Iran persia, is a colonial term.

        That's why they changed the name themselves to Iran, because they're the land of the Ayranian people.

        Someone should tell them to do a test at least.

        • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          The only reasonable explanation I have for this phenomenom is that these people are morons, believe that calling themselves Persian makes them western compliant, and believe it was the Ayatollah who 'changed the country's name'.

          • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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            2 months ago

            This terminology prevailed until 1935, when, during an international gathering for Nowruz, the Iranian king Reza Shah Pahlavi officially requested that foreign delegates begin using the endonym "Iran" in formal correspondence.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Iran

            It wasn't the Ayatollah, this happened long before the rise of the IRI or the revolution