Vote.

  • mrbigcheese [he/him]
    2·
    4 years ago

    I mean do you rather wanna support and organized with the PSL or the Green Party?

    • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
      2·
      4 years ago

      I guess PSL but getting the green party federal funding would be pretty pogchamp

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
        1·
        4 years ago

        green party is gonna get like 1.5% lol, also idk what ppl think 5% would even do tbh

        • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
          1·
          4 years ago

          the 5% goal would just be haha get owned feds now u have to give money to green party. Probably wont do anything to actually end the two-party system but whatever

          • mrbigcheese [he/him]
            2·
            4 years ago

            Are you confused about why I would support the candidate I want to vote for or what lol? I'm not pretending there's some "strategic advantage" or something, idk why you are about the greens tbh. I support and organize with PSL and they've done more than the green party ever has so i'll support their campaign idk how that's controversial. yall libs do whatever who the fuck gets mad over voting lmao

                  • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
                    1·
                    4 years ago

                    I think the reasoning is mostly for propaganda purposes even if it won't turn the PSL into a a huge nation-wide party overnight.

                      • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
                        1·
                        4 years ago

                        I get what you are saying. I think the effect voting for PSL will have will vary from state to state and region to region. If your state has a decent sized PSL presence I think it would make more sense to vote for the revolutionary party.

                              • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
                                1·
                                4 years ago

                                I disagree.

                                I voted for the Green Party in '16, I was so sure that with all the discontent they would get 5% and they didn't even come close.

                                I think it would be much more important to have the PSL get as many votes as they can in places with a large presence, as they do things outside the realm of electoral politics.

                                • Rev [none/use name]
                                  ·
                                  4 years ago

                                  But couldn't the argument be made that voting for Greens is akin to the John Oliver->Breadtube->Anarchism/Marxism pipeline? Like Green gets the 5% and more exposure, is fucked out of the federal funding and all the fervent Green voting libs can more easily get radicalised into supporting and doing activism for PSL? Just spitballing here, dunno maybe it's dumb...

                                  • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
                                    ·
                                    4 years ago

                                    someone else in the thread noted what happens alot of the time when a green party gains traction and I think it's a fair analysis.

                                    perhaps your right, who is to say what will radicalize people, but I'd rather a socialist org doing stuff on the ground get as much support as possible.

                                    • Rev [none/use name]
                                      ·
                                      4 years ago

                                      I’d rather a socialist org doing stuff on the ground get as much support as possible.

                                      Yeah obviously.

              • mrbigcheese [he/him]
                3·
                4 years ago

                well the green party will get a votes regardless of what people post on chapo.chat so i wouldnt waste hours of my life personally having a struggle session over it, flip a coin how about that lmao

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
        1·
        4 years ago

        why do you think the PSL even bothers to run a campaign at all? You think it doesnt matter whether they get 100 votes or 100,000? obviously it helps the org grow otherwise they wouldnt bother putting together these campaigns at all. i mean vote for whoever its not that deep

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
            3·
            4 years ago

            It literally does. I'd never vote for a fucking eCoSoCiAlisT anyway lmao. Get the fuck out of here with that made up shit

              • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
                4·
                4 years ago

                Glad that your anarkkkist sensibilities are more important than potentially boosting a party that's doing real work on the ground and instead are going to throw your vote in libs' faces in a petulant temper tantrum. We all know having our masters hear our anger is more important than feeding the children of unemployed people or fighting slumlords to get rid of mold in poor people's houses. Just think of there heckin fundarinos!

                Also I'd bet $1000 that within my lifetime we will find out that Murray Bookchin and a bunch of the other """""libertarian socialist""""" philosophers were CIA assets. Especially funny how Marxist-Leninist Abdullah Öcalan converts to Bookchinite DemCon/EcoSoco while in maximum security prison and immediately has his org ally with the US against Assad lmao.