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Maybe it might be useful doming some major gentile zionist, but I think traditional adventurist actions like that tend to just be used as a pretext for cracking down on the left, while self-immolation so far is not, so I think it's really the less harmful option.
I'm not convinced this is true in the current era we're in. Until I actually see it happen I'm not conforming to the old school of thought on it. After seeing 2 successful assassinations and the Trump one actually scare the living shit out of him so much that I believe he has some real fear and ptsd from it I'm not convinced that our old head thoughts on these actions are correct.
I'm willing to change that view if something happens that genuinely does result in something that would've been better for us had it not occurred. But right now 3 things have happened that could be considered adventurism and all 3 times they've been fucking awesome, or in the case of trump maybe that was neutral? I lean towards good though just because i know damn well he's scared shitless.
People are just too dogmatic about this. Palestine Action is very much doing work even though they're technically being adventurist. The orgs doing it the rightTM way haven't come close to the amount of material good Palestine Action has done. Is "building a working class movement" by protesting at the DNC supposed to help the Palestinians somehow?
The way I see it is imagine if you were a socialist in 1941 Germany who, through alignment of the stars, was able to avoid conscription to the Wehrmacht but couldn't leave Germany. What would socialist praxis look like in 1941 Germany? It would essentially be blowing up railroads and bridges, sabotaging airplanes and tanks, and committing wanton acts of violence against random Germany bureaucrats through gruesome murders. At best, you might have contacts with Allied intelligence and smuggle sensitive government documents, but every other form of socialist praxis is pretty much just every form of adventurism. I'm sure killing the German leader would've alienated the German working masses, but the German working masses were completely on board with exterminating Jews, Roma, and other undesirables in 1941. The whole tailist-commandist paradigm just doesn't make sense. The path to socialism with German characteristics in 1941 is the complete destruction of the German state wrought by the Red Army and the forceful reorganization of the German state into a socialist one by the Soviet Union. The proper socialist praxis would be being an underground partisan movement based within the heart of the German war machine itself.
East Germany, like the DPRK, had its founding facilitated by the Soviet Union, but was actually constructed mainly by Germans, as evidenced by their somewhat different laws. There were aspects that the SU demanded, but generally they did respect that a dictatorship of the proletariat has to be democratic. It was a bit easier to accomplish by the thorough purging of the Nazis, of course.
The Trump assassination was a) such a failure that it barely scratched him, b) not against a sitting official, and c) did not actually accomplish anything (his ptsd does not seem to have actually changed anything outside him). I don't think we can use the lack of backlash to prove much of anything given these features.
Abe's assassination was literally one of the most effective political assassinations of all time in terms of causing concrete policy changes, and that was in large part because of the existing racist animosity in the Japanese population towards the moonies, along with the killer having basically the perfect message to tell the media (and not getting killed before he could tell it) of actually supporting Abe politically but having his mother suffer due to one specific policy.
I don't know what the other assassination you are referring to is. Remember, I didn't rule out the killing of an Israeli general or something because it would be concretely useful for disrupting Israeli military operations, but I really think that if you kill some gentile Zionist politician, it just won't matter because the system does not rely on them and the media will still call you an antisemite and move on. If they're a Jewish Zionist, forget about it.
I'm not convinced this is true in the current era we're in. Until I actually see it happen I'm not conforming to the old school of thought on it. After seeing 2 successful assassinations and the Trump one actually scare the living shit out of him so much that I believe he has some real fear and ptsd from it I'm not convinced that our old head thoughts on these actions are correct.
I'm willing to change that view if something happens that genuinely does result in something that would've been better for us had it not occurred. But right now 3 things have happened that could be considered adventurism and all 3 times they've been fucking awesome, or in the case of trump maybe that was neutral? I lean towards good though just because i know damn well he's scared shitless.
People are just too dogmatic about this. Palestine Action is very much doing work even though they're technically being adventurist. The orgs doing it the rightTM way haven't come close to the amount of material good Palestine Action has done. Is "building a working class movement" by protesting at the DNC supposed to help the Palestinians somehow?
The way I see it is imagine if you were a socialist in 1941 Germany who, through alignment of the stars, was able to avoid conscription to the Wehrmacht but couldn't leave Germany. What would socialist praxis look like in 1941 Germany? It would essentially be blowing up railroads and bridges, sabotaging airplanes and tanks, and committing wanton acts of violence against random Germany bureaucrats through gruesome murders. At best, you might have contacts with Allied intelligence and smuggle sensitive government documents, but every other form of socialist praxis is pretty much just every form of adventurism. I'm sure killing the German leader would've alienated the German working masses, but the German working masses were completely on board with exterminating Jews, Roma, and other undesirables in 1941. The whole tailist-commandist paradigm just doesn't make sense. The path to socialism with German characteristics in 1941 is the complete destruction of the German state wrought by the Red Army and the forceful reorganization of the German state into a socialist one by the Soviet Union. The proper socialist praxis would be being an underground partisan movement based within the heart of the German war machine itself.
There's Abe. Which one is the other one? Prigo?
This blanquist bullshit is beneath you.
East Germany, like the DPRK, had its founding facilitated by the Soviet Union, but was actually constructed mainly by Germans, as evidenced by their somewhat different laws. There were aspects that the SU demanded, but generally they did respect that a dictatorship of the proletariat has to be democratic. It was a bit easier to accomplish by the thorough purging of the Nazis, of course.
The Trump assassination was a) such a failure that it barely scratched him, b) not against a sitting official, and c) did not actually accomplish anything (his ptsd does not seem to have actually changed anything outside him). I don't think we can use the lack of backlash to prove much of anything given these features.
Abe's assassination was literally one of the most effective political assassinations of all time in terms of causing concrete policy changes, and that was in large part because of the existing racist animosity in the Japanese population towards the moonies, along with the killer having basically the perfect message to tell the media (and not getting killed before he could tell it) of actually supporting Abe politically but having his mother suffer due to one specific policy.
I don't know what the other assassination you are referring to is. Remember, I didn't rule out the killing of an Israeli general or something because it would be concretely useful for disrupting Israeli military operations, but I really think that if you kill some gentile Zionist politician, it just won't matter because the system does not rely on them and the media will still call you an antisemite and move on. If they're a Jewish Zionist, forget about it.