It is completely inexcusable that people in STEM fields are so reactionary, considering how capitalism utterly destroys science.

If universities were actually "left wing indoctrination factories" like the right thinks they are, every STEM grad would be taught, for example, what Kropotkin had to say about innovation.

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      I was hoping they'd reply before I went to sleep 😕

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        the answer is: its irrelevant.

        first off, not my job to solve the issues of wind or solar tech on a fucking internet forum.

        secondly and more importantly, the point is that nuclear waste is bad not that its the worst possible thing int he world ever.

        lets assume only coal power existed. that was the only power source. would you argue we should use it, even knowing all the obvious issues with coal?

        nuclear waste is bad, has had a detrimental effect on my life and the lives of people i know, ergo i do not support nuclear fission energies. its not that fucking hard to understand.

        edit: ohhh no i stepped away for a whole hour to deal with real life shit, how terrible, i must have been owned so hard kristina. fuck off

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          lets assume only coal power existed. that was the only power source. would you argue we should use it, even knowing all the obvious issues with coal?

          Of course. No electricity causes endlessly more suffering than the pollution of coal power plants. Would you really prefer to return to feudalism in your hypothetical situation?

          If so, you're a by-the-book reactionary.

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              It's not, but industry requires artificial power. And industry is Good. And Capitalism and Socialism require industry. They are even defined by machine industry. Read Marx.

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                it aint worth the time arguing with a nutjob. if it were real life, just physically force them out of the room is my opinion. i have a huge disdain for them if you cant tell

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                industry good therefor i cant even imagine a world in which we live without power but also embrace communism, trying to do so means youve never read a book.

                im sure the anprims love you at parties.

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                  Please explain how we reach fully automated gay communism without commanding many times more energy than what we can produce with our own bodies.

                  Your first sentence is exactly true, and anprims are indeed reactionaries. Marx on the Luddites, the anprims of the 19th century (edit: it's in section 5, 'The Strife Between Workman and Machine').

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                    nah. youre rolling deep on some stemlord shit and i dont need to explain anything, let alone amuse the idea that fully automated luxury gay space communism is the only worthwhile goal possible.

                    i was proposing a thought experiment to try and shake things up but youre literally the least imaginitive person around town, so you jumped straight to "no! go read marx!" instead of actually thinking about what a coal powered world would look like, and how perhaps mass consumption and automation via coal would not be the best idea for peoples lungs.

                    but whatever.

                    fuck off