They're not made by Motorola (which is Chinese). They were made by Gold Apollo (which is Taiwanese).
To be specific, the original Motorola company split into Motorola Mobility, which is owned by Lenovo and sells phones, and Motorola Solutions, which is American, sells telecommunications systems, and definitely does work with Israel.
This was a really hard lesson for Hezbollah to learn to always buy shit from certified anti-imperialist sources and not from fake China. China should airlift Huawei devices to Hezbollah to replace them.
On the other hand, the Axis of Resistance has never had a better excuse to annihilate Israel in response.
This is the kind of thing that should motivate every nerd to realize that they do have something to contribute to the revolution even if it seems small at first. Help with opsec and infosec! Orgs are busy thinking about other things! They will be safer if you help them decrease their attack surface.
This wasn't need shit. This was a supply chain attack. Most people saw supply chain attacks as pure cyber - backdoors, remote listening, etc. This is the first supply chain attack I know of that added lethality. This is something every organization is going to look for on all electronics shipments now.
If you are supplying thousands of devices to an org the first thing you should do is verify the supply chain / your infosec around the ordering process and then disassemble some when they arrive. All it requires is a screwdriver and a spudger at most. Personally, I would have been looking out for recording devices or GPS devices, but you would also discover the bomb material if you did this.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gold-apollo-says-it-did-not-make-pagers-used-lebanon-explosion-2024-09-18/
It was made in Europe, not Taiwan. Also, the KMT doesn't represent Taiwan. They are literally immigrants to Taiwan and are referred to as such there.
I am currently taking bets on what of the 3 companies owned by china will be the last one the US bans, Motorola, Volvo, or Milwakee tools
Just to be safe, don't buy western tech. That in itself would be good revenge. Bankrupt the assholes. Oh you sanctioned Huawei, watch no one buy your tech because of crazy rumors that should be spread even if they are false about western tech.
I am glad you clarified, I was trying to figureout why Lenovo would co-operate with Isn'treal
I don't even know what to say. Just thinking about the amount of planning going into this terrorism.
Considering Tel Aviv isn't actually at war with Lebanon this is just an act of genuine insanity. They just created a whole new generation of adversaries by dragging in so many civillians.
There's a mission in the video game Star Wars: The Old Republic in which an Imperial character can place explosives inside handheld communicators being used by resistance fighters -- following through with the plan gives you lots of Dark Side morality points.
And then if you go Light Side on that mission, the guy reveals that civillian casualties is the point. Kinda eerie.
Israel is just farming those dark side points, they wanna wear those cool robes you can buy when its maxed out
Star Wars also came to my mind when thinking about this whole thing. It's something that could come straight from the mind of Darth Sidious.
I've been trying to find details about this on the internet. Do you have more specifics that I can look up somewhere?
https://swtorista.com/quests/index.php?quest=empire-balmorra-coms-away
It's just a small side mission, so it's not well-documented. The Dark Side choice is to put explosives in the comm units in order to kill civilians; the Light Side choice is to sabotage grenades in order to only kill resistance soldiers. It's a mission only for characters aligned with the Sith Empire, so even the "good" choice is pretty shitty.
In a vaccum, putting aside everything else that Isreal has done, this should be grounds for a complete embargo of Isreal. Why should any country trust a rogue nation that puts bombs in products that arr circulated throughout the civilian population?
Jokingly a kinda serious, sad answer - because de facto colonies can't just freely decide stuff like this without consequences. And other superpowers like China just don't yet get targeted that significantly to outweigh the commercial benefits of overall trades.
For reference, due to the inefficiency of cellphones and computers, especially near extremely sensitive equipment and in hospitals with many floors that block wifi signals, pagers are the standard communication devices in hospitals.
I have no doubt that hundreds of the casualties reported were nurses, doctors, and EMTs.
If any nation sold thousands of handheld bombs to hospitals and civilians in the US, Congress would mobilize the nation for war before the end of the day.
I was wondering if this was a supply-chain attack. Fucking sophisticated shit.
Well time for Tel Aviv to get hit with a few more hypersonics. Sorry not sorry. It's the only way they will behave.
Sorry not sorry I will say they can get real bombs over. As I understand, hypersonics just mimic the noise from the bomb, please do correct me. If that's the case, I am not embarrassed to say, since we've come to this, maybe it's time "Israel" tastes its own meal of death and despair. I will never ever understand what the fuck is wrong with that nation, how do one entire group of people becomes a collective monster.
I mean, I don't want people to die, but Israelis really don't give a fuck about anyone, why should I have sympathy for them? We all have our limits and mine are crossed long time ago. I'm embarrassed to feel this way, but I want them to pay the same way they've destroyed thousands of lives of the people who own the land they're on.
I mean, I don’t want people to die
Hell, I'll just say it outright- I do (though this is no statement of intent whatsoever).
Genocidaires should die. Imperialists should die. Those who gleefully engage in war crimes of the highest order should die. No questions asked; if they get better perhaps they can be spared (though that should be entirely up to the mercy or lack thereof of the victims or the judgement of the world at large IMO- and even then it is a matter of whether sparing them, taking the time and resources to rehabilitate them and keep watch over them is a risk that can be afforded). But getting better is to be done on their own initiative, if time and humanity happens to move past them (if the consequences of their actions catch up to them before they have made such a change) then whatever happens, happens- no tears shed, no spilt milk, nothing of value lost.
Well... You're right. But unfortunately, the only way they're gone is to kill them in a bloody revolution and honestly, I am sick and tired of murdering on this planet. If someone could invent a virus that could off all the mentioned, that would be awesome. If we kill them, we'll be like them. That's why I hate them so, so much. They make me think violent thoughts and I don't fucking like that. It's spoiling my soul. But what to wish to all these bastards but death? That's what I'm saying, they so don't care about anyone and anything but themselves that when something like this happens, the only reasonable is to wish them the same.
I completely understand your sentiment. You don't want to become like them. These people are starting manifest destiny 2.0 and have to be stopped however. The ethnic cleansing of this hemisphere happened over a very long time, people tend to overlook that. If it could have been nipped in the bud, so much misery would have been avoided.
Edit: Hypersonics are called that because they travel at very high multiples of the speed of sound. It does not have to do with acoustics. The speed enables the missile to bypass air defenses. This one was Mach 11 or 12 or something crazy like that and has a 650kg warhead. It did damage likely that the zios hid.
If they wanted to be better, they would have left a long time ago and left the keys for the homes they stole for the indigenous peoples to come back. Nearly every westerner and definitely nearly every single zionists does not feel a tinge of empathy for brown people dying. Anecdotal, but I had an isntraeli coworker and his eyes would light up like a kid on Christmas when talking about the Iraq War. He was soooo happy that all those brown people died.
I don't know about you, but I am in a fucking shock. After one year of Gaza a person would think it can't go any further than Gaza. Obviously it can.
I'm thinking of all of those men who lost their penises... Imagine, being a traditional man and losing your penis. Imagine the pain behind that. I'm a woman and I can feel it, how humiliating it has to be.
And I know ITF and Mossad laughed. This is funny to them.
We live in a despicable world.
some kids got their heads blown off because they're at pocket height, saw a video of a guy losing both of his legs from it
How do you make sure that 1000's of pagers were only sold to terrorist and not just normal people that might use one, and how do you make sure that they haven't changed hands in the last 5 months? It's not like a pager is something only a terrorist would use.
They didn't bother. It's called collaterals damage and they don't think any outside of Israelis are full humans.
Not to be pedantic, but people who are defending themselves against a genocidal occupier aren't terrorists.
It's not about targeting "terrorists" it's about targeting medical staff, and other innocent people. Pagers are very widely used by medical staff. Especially in the ER. Isn'treal has shown time and time again they specifically target medical and care staff. It's like their snub at the world. They know that it is universally accepted that medical staff is not to be targeted in wars and conflicts by most all nations. It no difference when they target people from the UN, NATO, other allied forces, etc. it's than declaring they will be as shitty and despicable as they want, that they don't answer to anyway, and can get away with anything.
You know, the ramifications of this are gonna be intense. Imagine the reality setting in for corporations worldwide that Israel could just be strapping lethal weapons; openly and brazenly, by the way, not like they're trying to hide this at all like some Five Eyes/NSA shit; to any devices passing through chains they have influence in. Even if you're the most West-gargling corporation or entity; this is the kinda shit that makes you go "huh".
This is just...depraved.
This is what triggers WW3. We need to respond to Israel’s flagrant disregard of human life with force or this type of shit continues.
So this is an act of war right? Like I know that this has been a war... but like I am just keeping counts of acts of war and Declaration of War by actions being done... and like this is one ...
I thought blowing up another country's embassy was certainly an act of war and I guess no one cared about it?
It is ... and no one did... because we are checks notes in the worst timeline... I mean my only question is at what point does what Isn'treal doing not just become so moraly reprehisable (we are well past that) but a nusence enough to atleast the neighbors not bought and payed for by the US that a regional war actualy breaks out... at what point does Iran and Lebenon ect. decide that the risk of US involvement is less than letting the babby have a gun
the lebanon goverment is a joke, it's the reason why hezbollah exists.
They're weighing their options. Its blatantly obvious that Israel is baiting a war with Lebanon so that they can call the US in for direct assistance, which will lead to a protracted and costly war for Lebanon. The silence is deafening however, and Lebanon will need to respond somehow.
Imperialist and colonizer nations are truly sick.
You see when US imperialists scream about China being a threat in our supply chains it's because THEY have put hardware implants targeting others in supply chains they control and as they are good and China is evil China must be willing to do the same to them even more-so. Same with this kind of shit. They look at this and don't think "my goodness are we the baddies?", they instead have a freakout of "what if our enemies do this to us? omg, China is gonna use their products to do terrorism" despite zero evidence the Chinese or Russians, etc would ever sink to their level or have ever done so.
Again and again throughout history westerners do the most reprehensible, terroristic, war-criminal shit to others and despite their enemies having no history of doing that assume they're just waiting to do the same to them the second they get the chance. Projection.
I've heard the axis of resistance is getting fed up with waiting but I'm not sure they'll act even on this.
Oh sure they'll lob some missiles but they're stuck in a situation where there is an unhinged and unstable apartheid colony whose leader faces possible prison, certainly loss of power the moment this "crisis" is over so must keep escalating to keep it going along-with the widespread condemnation of them for carrying out a genocide meaning they want to play the victim, they want a war against them to break out so they can cry for pity and the censorship dial in the west can be turned up even further with ever more hysterical cries of anti-semitism for any criticism of "israel" while "they're fighting for their lives and existence against jew haters who attack them for no reason". So it wants to draw the US into a war, wants a regional war, wants a chance to crush and put down at least one element arrayed against it permanently.
Many feel however if they don't get this war they look increasingly unhinged and become increasingly isolated and the bad PR just keeps on building beyond the ability of the west to tamp down. However there's a real question what the end-game of that waiting play is. The west isn't going to get ashamed soon enough to save the Palestinian people or Gaza, they're really all in on defending the zionist regime and screaming down any criticism as anti-semitism while downplaying it even existing outside of a small group of "extremists" via their media. The US clearly isn't willing to reign in the zionist regime. Trump or Harris neither is going to change things. And the fact is the zionist regime can keep escalating, they can bomb daycares and children's hospitals and just keep upping the ante all the way to using a nuclear weapon if they really want to in order to attempt to provoke a response.
So if they do nothing they invite more attacks and attempts to goad them to draw the US in. If they respond they risk more escalation and war with the US involved. "israel" is doing salami-slicing tactics, they do something that demands a response, perhaps several things and claim they were for self-defense then sit back and wait, let things cool just a little then go back in for more, never letting the heat really drop.
The negotiations are a smokescreen for the zionist regime to carry out their genocide under yet it also gives cover for these actors to do nothing, to not escalate to war, to claim they need to wait and do it this way.
I will say one thing going for the "wait" camp is that unrest in the settler-colony is rising. Mass protests are occurring right now and if that can continue and be magnified it may be possible to collapse it or bring it to its knees and force it to stop the genocide and all other hostilities but that's a big if.
