I had basically given up on electoralism for years at this point.
I do not believe the western working class by and large has any revolutionary potential, basically JDPON-pilled.
But the genocide in Palestine really made me more invested in this whole dog and pony show again.
I guess I figured like…sure bourgeoise democracy will not bring about socialism, but at the very least you can still get some concessions potentially out of it.
Perhaps I was naive, but like…I wanted to hope there was some way the Democrats could be convinced to stop it by November, even if it was electoralist bullshit I feel like the Palestinians deserved (and still deserve) even a futile attempt.
But seeing the shit with the DSA, especially the SMC and Groundwork caucuses, seeing unions who oppose the genocide endorse Biden/Harris right out the gate, seeing the Uncommitted movement do the same while the Harris campaign has done nothing but spit in their face….
I am filled with a helpless rage. Americans are the most pathetic contemptible creatures on this earth.
I’M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR SOCIALISM! ALL I’M ASKING FOR IS THE DEMOCRATS TO COME AROUND ON AN ISSUE 77% OF DEMOCRATS AND 61% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE!
BUT EVEN THAT IS TOO MUCH, TOO HARD FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGHT FOR EVEN WHEN IT IS ALLEDGELY THEIR WHOLE REASON FOR EXISTING!!
I knew Americans were useless and selfish, and short-sighted and stupid…but I didn’t think they were to this extent.
That was my mistake I guess.
the point is to have enough people threaten to withhold their vote unless something is done by the election, it doesn't matter if there is a viable third party it only matters that Harris will lose Michigan and/or other states.
There's a scene in seven psychopaths where someone points a gun a Christopher Walken and tells him to put his hands up, and Walken just casually says "no", and the other guy gets confused and frustrated. That's how it feels threatening to withhold votes from the Democratic party.
We need ranked choice voting.
That would be a great step, but we also need to allow candidates the ability to even be on the ballot
we need more than that
Even then there are similar pitfalls. But at least the Shit Lite party can't cry spoiler as much.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
All due respect, and with the understanding that I'm not a brilliant political strategist. Can you explain how we get from point A (threaten to withhold votes) to point B (a positive outcome in Palestine)?
if you capitulate on every issue who the fuck is going to take you seriously
If Harris and the democrats fear they will lose crucial swing states and potentially the election because of what is happening in Palestine then they might be convinced to change course.
That seems pretty naive, given how they've been completely unwilling to compromise so far, and seem very confident they won't have to.
they're confident they won't have to because of spineless fucks like you who are supporting them unconditionally
Says the dipshit talking
So let's support them anyway? Okay, god you deserve to be thrown full force into the deepest pit. You deserve, at best, an oubliette so deep and so dark you forget what the sun even is
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K, I don’t care.
Either nothing happens or something happens.
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Unfortunately, in America we can't within the current system. Reform or revolution? (Revolution)
If there was a third party, I honestly think there'd be a chance to make things better. Either to force reform by pulling votes from the bigger party, or being a vanguard for revolution. Just not the fucking green party, jesus. They didn't win a single county in 2016, and I fucking hate them.
You should reexamine why you're directing statements like "I fucking hate them" to the green party instead of the party currently in charge of enabling the genocide in Gaza
So you hate the greens more than the genocidal Democrats?