Mostly talking about stuff like breadtubers, chapo, and media personalities like that, I can kind of tell why people like Bernie and Jezza where they're at. Is it the added wealth being a popular media personality gives you, the need to give a consistent product, the need to appeal to a wide breadth of people, and so on?

edit: also props to Brett at RevLeft for continuing to radicalise himself as the show has gone on

  • corporalham [none/use name]
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    Well, in what meaningful sense have we outgrown them? We post memes about Stalin? Like I basically understand the politics of the chapos and I disagree with some of their takes but it's not like chapo.chat has some radical vision of the future that will burn past all the roadblocks leftism has faced in the past few years.

    If you're simply speaking in terms of tactics and that the chapos don't push for more radical forms of political action I'd agree, but at the same time it's not like any combination of leftist political action is going to change the next two months. We're not in the driver's seat, we're not even close. It's completely useless to be saying which breed of leftism is the most righteous one, they're all on the sidelines right now.

    If you like the show, you like it. If you don't, you don't. But we're all basically on the same team, this isn't a time to be drawing battle lines and pushing people away. We should be trying to bring people in, bringing them in on the most radical terms possible, while also not pushing them off if they don't meet some arbitrary threshold of leftyness. To this end chapo, breadtube, and left media people all continue to serve their purpose. There isn't really a reason for them to change so long as there is an audience to listen, and that isn't a bad thing.