Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2021_Survey_on_existence_of_global_warming_and_responsibility_for_climate_change_-_bar_chart.svg
There are far top few meaningful differences between Republicans and Democrats, but stuff like this shows the base (not the leaders) of one party is at least amenable to reality, and the other largely isn't.
Elections do care about their opinions, and elections have consequences. Very serious consequences.
Not really in terms of climate change were totally fucked on that one no matter which party's in power.
But only one party has any interest in doing something about it.
No they don't. One party says they're for it, there's just apparently literally nothing they can do about the people in their party who continuously stop them from doing it. Giving them a conve isn't scapegoat for why they never do anything.
why is the "climate change doesn't exist" bar for the second question so much smaller than the "no" bar for the first question? am I an idiot or does that just not make any sense?
Death to America
Literally anything done to any fossil fuel lobbyist or executive is an act of collective self-defense.
You heard it, folks! I'm inviting them to a $10K per head campaign dinner where I will sternly suggest they explore the possibility of researching a serious scaling back (5 bps!) of coal mining.
For our self-defense
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nore worried about the fact that of those that answered that global warming isn't occurring, only 50% still think that it doesn't exist in a different question. did the other 50% just suddenly reconsider?
They mainly blame it on the sun or they just see it as "natural warming" just the way ice ages have existed.
For example: here's one of Germany's leading right wing populists (and inbred nazi descendant wannabe noble) Beatrix von Storch saying: "Well maybe we need to tell the sun to shine less!" when being asked about how to tackle climate change.
And when you watched the clown beat the defenseless mime to death you saw it laugh. Then, the clown called the mimes mom's dirty names, waved a hitler flag and shot the mime. Afterwards calling him a removed and gesturing for his widow to call him later. He then slapped you in the face with a rubber circus dink, called you Ugly Stan and you called him by his first name asking for another.
After all of that, what do you think caused the clown to do such a terrible thing?
GoOp: "I don't think it was the clown."
I’ve known a guy for like 20 years, currently in his 60s, who firmly believes that anthropogenic climate change is entirely false.
He has a bachelors degree in physics, a bachelors degree in mathematics, and a Ph.D in economics. He’s written a handful of high level Econ textbooks, he’s worked as a professor off and on at 3 or 4 respected universities here in the US. He was most recently employed at a supply chain consulting firm, making an ungodly amount of money.
By all accounts, he’s an extremely smart, well-educated, well-read guy. But holy shit if that boomer isn’t constantly reposting the most transparently fake anti-science nonsense on his Facebook page. Think, “New research proves that Climate Change is a liberal myth” - The Religious Conservative Storm.
Just demonstrates how it doesn’t matter how educated someone is if they don’t think critically about information that confirms their expectations.
There be people like that. My dad was a professor for applied mathematics at a top level university in Germany, published books etc. Nowadays he works as an indepentdent business consultants and is insanely successful on an international level. And while he does believe climate change is real he is very, uhm, alternative when it comes to health and nutrition. Think fruit juices and nutrition supplements and sun doesn't cause cancer and "holding a lazer to your heel makes your rotten teeth unrotten" kinda stuff. (Didn't work.) Watches weird ass youtube videos by "experts". Me, having a M.Sc. in Nutrition and Biomedicine, I am in no way an expert like these people or himself when it comes to nutrition, health and medicine, according to him. People can be extremely smart and talented in some parts of their lives and be completely bonkers in others.
Yeah sounds very similar. And weird coincidence, but the guy I’m talking about is also German. Lives in the US now, but his parents don’t speak English, he came here as a kid I believe.
My dad isn't German but he only became obsessed with alt health and nutrition once he moved to Germany... Coincidence? I think not - there must be something in the air here that turns people crazy
How weird. My sample size is now 2, I think I’m ready to draw a conclusion and only consider evidence that confirms it going forward.
That reminds me how my father loves to tell the story of a doctor who wasn't convinced that sun causes skin cancer so he went to India for a year and didn't wear sunscreen once and lo and behold he didn't get cancer so he disproved that sun causes cancer.
Again, my dad is a mathematician. Granted, analytical and computer algebra, not statistics, but dear Lord.
"The majority is always wrong. Me smart for thinking different 🤓"
I'd like to point out that this gets weirder when you realize that logically, they'd only ask someone if oil and gas companies are responsible for climate change if the individual previously answered "yes" or "don't know" to the question, "is global warming occuring".
That would imply that anyone in the black on those bars either lied at some point, selected the wrong answer by mistake, or straight up didn't understand the first question...
Spooky
“It's already a hundred ten in the summer, and if it gets one degree hotter, I’m gonna kick your ass!” --Renee Descartes (1596-1650)
Good thing they aren't alive anymore to see the record breaking straight 30 day 110 plus heat in Phoenix, AZ.
All I know is that I keep my oven and stove running with the AC on and the windows open. I'm doing my part by wasting as much energy as possible. Wait… did I miss the point? /s
I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world, and I don't believe climate change is a problem. And I'm also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I've seen enough). I'm just saying this so that you don't stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.
You don't believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven't read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.
Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.
I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world
no you don't
This is good bait but I almost totally believe it, the kind of person who spends a decade being told they're a very smart math boy at a top university is extremely susceptible to believing every whim of theirs is genuinely brilliant
Today is your lucky day. Since I'm in a good mood, let's see if you'll put your money where your mouth is.
I will reveal my real name, my PhD thesis, with a link to the university linking to my thesis. Here's the bet: if I can prove it (that I have a PhD in particle physics from a prestigious university of top 10), you pay me one whole fucking bitcoin. If not, I'll pay you one bitcoin.
We'll find a betting platform (of your choice if you wish) where we deposit these bitcoins into a multisig address with a referee. One of us wins based on the bet.
Are you gonna put your money where your mouth is? Or a dick where you learn not to open your mouth next time?
What do you say?
Offering a bet in pyramid scheme money does not make you more credible
See? The moment you're required to be responsible for a word you said, you ran away... hahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.
Talk is easy. This is why climate change is mainstream, because dumb people with big mouths make their dumb opinions sound real with fake confidence. Now you know what your confidence is worth. Class dismissed.
I'm not the person who doubted you have a PhD. I'm fully aware that dumb, obnoxious assholes can also get gold stars.
Perfect! I am an asshole, proudly so. Though if I were dumb I wouldn't be where I am today. So your opinion means very little to me. Nighty night.
being dumb is exactly how you got where you are.
having a PhD doesn't mean you think critically or can evaluate literature anymore. and it definitely does not give you license to kick out of your coverage, like you're trying desperately to do here..
having your little credential just means your committee wanted you gone after 5 years of being an asshole and didn't want to fuck the stats of whatever shit tier program's orifice you oozed out of.
Of course my PhD means nothing... it only means something if I agree with the cult. Duh!
Perhaps if you commented on particle physics it would mean something.
Though if I were dumb I wouldn't be where I am today.
Lol rageposting on an obscure internet forum?
"If I'm so dumb why am I demanding people bet me bitcoin on a web forum where we post a picture of a pig with a turd on its balls over and over"
Rage? Dude I'm laughing my ass off! What are you smoking?! This is amazing! I'm sitting here watching people defend their demise just because TV told them so. Can it be any funnier?
Hey look, the other cool kid is also pasting jpegs... nice! 🤣
Keep repeating that in all your comments. You may eventually be able to sleep when you're done crying for a comment online. 😄
I'm not as cool as you, I don't believe in climate change and I don't post lame gifs to forums... well, I guess you win 🤣
Yes, that validation is very important... I can't live without it... that's why I believe every dumb mainstream TV narrative like climate change... no wait, that's you 🤣
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
You too. It was fun watching you try so hard to be the cool kid. Next time try to read a book. Nighty night.
Like get laid go outside find literally anyone to love you. It's very very very easy to find partners and friends nowadays
LMAO god I love federation. i actually forgot people with their heads as far up their own asses as yours existed for a while there
At least I'm a freaking physicist. I understand statistics and math. You believe freaking ecologists for crying our loud! Anyone who talks for climate change is believed, and anyone who is against it is questioned. Wtf does Bill Nye or Tyson have to do with climate change? Yet somehow no one tells them "stfu, this isn't your field". They're just "TV". No one even comes close to researching this matter before spitting out a dumb opinion to avoid peer pressure.
But suddenly when someone disagrees, now they lose all their credentials and it isn't their specialty.
This game is being played on a global scale. So don't play the game "specialty and field", because a monkey agreeing with you can become an authoritative source from what I saw. All you have to do is silence everyone who disagrees with you. I'm not silenced yet, and I have an opinion, and no one has to give a shit for all I care.
Just a note, there's a bug that causes some of hexbear's emotes to be extremely large for users of other instances. The cryptocurrency emote is one of them. Other hexbear users have taken to hiding those behind spoilers to avoid annoying users from other instances.
Well, I don't need to beg. I have enough money for decades to come, unlike most people here who defend agendas made to make them poor forever. People who believe anything said on TV, and have big mouths with big confidence with zero responsibility. Exactly the kind of people who transmit bullshit to make themselves feel better and feel relevant in a world that discarded them like the pieces of nothing they deserve to be.
Enjoy being poor while defending every reason that made you poor. No sympathy from me.
It really is a great example of an expert not knowing how dumb they are in other topics.
Ok, maybe we give him the benefit of the doubt and he knows something about particle physics.
Good thing he immediately showed he's a huge fucking dumbass in anything not related to that by being a crypto bro.
Oh, look at this... the cool guy posting gifs again! Very cool!
Given that you believe in climate change and TV rhetoric, I get your lack of understanding of the difference of bet and beg. You see, people who produce value and their words mean something do the former. Unlike when you do the latter and beg your parents for change to go to the movies. 😄
No worries. I got you, buddy.
Didn't I tell you in your other comment begging me to leave you alone that shitting on you is more fun? Take the hint!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
You believe freaking ecologists for crying our loud!
Are you implying that ecology is a less valid field than physics?
Oh yeah? Well, I will navigate to a college homepage and pick a professor to link to for HALF a bitcoin!
I have a second question you say there are people who have read 100x more than us. Where is their work? Everything I can find says the climate change is real and it's human caused.
This is proof that you only watch mainstream media and think you know everything. This is the problem. You never even considered researching the opposite opinion, and you think it just doesn't exist.
And people wonder how censorship makes people more ignorant.
Dude, you don't want sources. The moment I give you a name of a book showing you a different opinion, you'll find a reason to skip it and use it to discredit whatever information in it without reading. I'm old enough and have seen that enough. It's the same attitude I used to get when I discussed with religious people why their faith doesn't make any sense.
See? You don't understand plain English. I'm glad my experience made me not waste time with you.
Oh, no. A random guy online is criticizing me... 😭
You think I give a shit? Everyone defending climate change is a clown to me. Who cares. Do you cry when people call you names? Grow up!
What makes me cool? Posting anime gifs and calling people clowns?
No, no. Believing in climate change. That's what makes me cool! Hahahahahahahaha! 🤣
You wanna talk about who cares? Watch yourself quoting every word I say. Unbelievable. What are you, 12?
Give it a break, at this point you're just sad. I'm having a ball here. We done with lame gifs for tonight?
More cool jpegs from the cool kid! I'm impressed, I bet you get an A in school when your essays have them.
Shitting on you is more fun! You can't take this away from me!
Of course not. We're here only impressed with your gift posting abilities... I mean come on... even my kids cannot do that!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I love your outcry to end this conversation fighting with your ego to the point where you pasted this message on all the comments 🤣... grow up!
I bet you have a PhD in English now, too, in addition to your one in original internet insults.
Stop strawmanning my position in your head. The most often anti climate change scientist I saw quoted was Richard Lindzen. Who's position seems to be CO2 causes global warming but it's not as bad as most people predict, but his claims have been refuted repeatedly so please show me the sources you are using. They did a study to investigate his iris effect, his claim being this would cool the planet counteracting the CO2, the study found the iris effect would cause further warming. So again if you aren't just a troll at this point what book or source are you getting this information from?
I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world, and I don't believe climate change is a problem.
I have a JD and I'm telling you cancer isn't real
I haven't seen one of these in a minute.
You're going to die in hellfire.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/climate-change-global-warming-faq.html
https://globalchange.mit.edu/publication/18043
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/what-is-climate-change
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-to-believe-in-antarctica-rsquo-s-great-ice-debate/
https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2019/06/SR15_Full_Report_High_Res.pdf
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar4/wg1/
I have an undergrad minor in sustainable energy systems engineering and they taught us how to look up ipcc reports. Whatever university you went to sucks dogshit if you didn't get that far in your PhD program.
You can measure community's IQ by how far down you have to scroll through "dumb republicans, amirite xdxdxd?" before you reach a post like this one. And that guy with gifs in every message is obnoxious as fuck.
Correct, the best communities clown on this garbage or just delete it.
You're right, emojis are cool and fun, glad you enjoy
