• GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    If it fucking "sunk" how tf would the US be able to confirm that let alone see that from an image? It's not a ship, it's supposed to be underwater.

      • geikei [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        You are right. Thats why no nuclear submarines are made in fucking Wuhan and the facilities there arent even equipped for that. If that changed somehow you would see massive and visible constructions and renovations there for the last 1-2 years. Only conventional submarines are made there. Nuclear chinese subs are made near the coast as well and the facilities there have no issue with capacity. China sudenly deciding to make nuclear subs 5k km upstream where the river has an average dpeth of less than 10 meters (a depth that even mini nuclear subs would be fully visible by satellite if submerged) for no reason ridiculous.

        Also if you look into the reporting this is literally the same debunked story from months ago that goten new life just cause they asked some random us officials and showed them the picture and he said "yeah thats plausible" .Thats the official confirmation talked about in the reporting

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          When you talk without being presumptuous and combative, that's the norm. Of course, you come in being amazingly condescending, so you see your reception.

        • PointAndClique [they/them]
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          2 months ago

          ?????

          this is how the comm normally is? Excepting the times where people come in to deliberately stir up shit

        • bumpusoot [any]
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          2 months ago

          Welcome to.. business as usual? Here at least.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          actually I think I'll add a bit of hate to this answer. Death to America, death to the Wall Street Journal.

  • mustGo [any]
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    2 months ago

    We need a :bigfoot: or :cryptid: emotes for this blurry jpeg astrology western journos / conspiracy theorists love to do.

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    I really hate this new genre of "journalism" where they do wild speculation based off some grainy satellite images

  • PointAndClique [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Fuck also the 'compete in the pacific' line making it as though China wants to run gunboats along the US west coast sicko-wistful

  • bumpusoot [any]
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    2 months ago

    China: Does anything

    Media: is-this proof China is losing?

  • smb@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    i can clearly see the sub marine on the picture !!! look in the harbour (shown on the left image) there is a subways and right before the entrance there is a marine ... not to mention he has the sub of the day in his hand and walks away which looks a bit like drunken to me and "sunken" could just be a bad typo... maybe too few pixels for everyone to see it, but its there !!!

    don't fall for propaganda, fall for turboprops or ghandi, for submarines or cranes, maybe for the shadows (of babylon5) if you insist but plz not for propaganda !

  • carpoftruth [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    I don't have any reason to trust the WSJ, but in the magnified image some of the other things that look like shadows don't have the same alignment as the crane shadow marked. Look at the shadow of the two cranes on the two middle boats - they point up and to the right instead of horizontally.

    • culpritus [any]
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      2 months ago

      This is just a failure to understand the 3D aspect of the shadows and cranes. The sun (light source) is up high and almost in direct line with the crane on the left. These cranes are not vertical, but at different angles to the light source and the the water/surface. That's why the shadows are like that. This is very basic satellite imagery analysis.

      simple visual aid to show how all the shadows and cranes are congruent with the light source:

      Show

      Also most submarines are not wedge shaped like the big shadow of the left crane.

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Maybe, it's a little sus to have 4 cranes in the same place though what exactly are they lifting? Headline is still bullshit though, the us Navy is out there running ships into each other on the regular

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      lol a bit of a leap from 4 cranes in the same place to China lost a nuclear sub though, especially with the whole "shows what appears to be" bit which is effectively admission that they have no idea what is going on there

    • foxontherocks [undecided, undecided]
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      2 months ago

      The US is the abnormal one with like 7 cranes for the entire country. China has an above average number of cranes and that means sometimes they use two or three cranes.