• PointAndClique [they/them]
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    8 hours ago

    Fuck also the 'compete in the pacific' line making it as though China wants to run gunboats along the US west coast sicko-wistful

  • bumpusoot [any]
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    7 hours ago

    China: Does anything

    Media: is-this proof China is losing?

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    8 hours ago

    I really hate this new genre of "journalism" where they do wild speculation based off some grainy satellite images

  • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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    9 hours ago

    If it fucking "sunk" how tf would the US be able to confirm that let alone see that from an image? It's not a ship, it's supposed to be underwater.

    • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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      9 hours ago

      The story is bullshit but the pier is too shallow for a submarine to operate safely underwater.

      US nuclear subs, for example, need at least 50-60 ft (16-20 m) under its keel to navigate safely, otherwise they risk running aground in shallow waters. Smaller submarines are better at that, which is why for littoral (coastal) defense, it makes sense to have small Soviet/Russian-made Kilo class SSKs lurking in the coastal area, but it is too dangerous for nuclear subs to do so, not to mention that nuclear subs are far noisier than diesel subs like the Kilos running on batteries.

      Most submarines will sail from the pier to a minimum underwater depth before diving. So it’s very easy to tell if a submarine is “underway” (submarine leaving the pier) or not.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          edit-2
          6 hours ago

          actually I think I'll add a bit of hate to this answer. Death to America, death to the Wall Street Journal.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          7 hours ago

          When you talk without being presumptuous and combative, that's the norm. Of course, you come in being amazingly condescending, so you see your reception.

        • bumpusoot [any]
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          7 hours ago

          Welcome to.. business as usual? Here at least.

        • PointAndClique [they/them]
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          7 hours ago

          ?????

          this is how the comm normally is? Excepting the times where people come in to deliberately stir up shit

  • mustGo [any]
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    9 hours ago

    We need a :bigfoot: or :cryptid: emotes for this blurry jpeg astrology western journos / conspiracy theorists love to do.

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    7 hours ago

    Maybe, it's a little sus to have 4 cranes in the same place though what exactly are they lifting? Headline is still bullshit though, the us Navy is out there running ships into each other on the regular

    • foxontherocks [none/use name]
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      5 hours ago

      The US is the abnormal one with like 7 cranes for the entire country. China has an above average number of cranes and that means sometimes they use two or three cranes.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      7 hours ago

      lol a bit of a leap from 4 cranes in the same place to China lost a nuclear sub though, especially with the whole "shows what appears to be" bit which is effectively admission that they have no idea what is going on there

  • smb@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    i can clearly see the sub marine on the picture !!! look in the harbour (shown on the left image) there is a subways and right before the entrance there is a marine ... not to mention he has the sub of the day in his hand and walks away which looks a bit like drunken to me and "sunken" could just be a bad typo... maybe too few pixels for everyone to see it, but its there !!!

    don't fall for propaganda, fall for turboprops or ghandi, for submarines or cranes, maybe for the shadows (of babylon5) if you insist but plz not for propaganda !

  • carpoftruth [any, any]
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    10 hours ago

    I don't have any reason to trust the WSJ, but in the magnified image some of the other things that look like shadows don't have the same alignment as the crane shadow marked. Look at the shadow of the two cranes on the two middle boats - they point up and to the right instead of horizontally.

    • culpritus [any]
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      10 hours ago

      This is just a failure to understand the 3D aspect of the shadows and cranes. The sun (light source) is up high and almost in direct line with the crane on the left. These cranes are not vertical, but at different angles to the light source and the the water/surface. That's why the shadows are like that. This is very basic satellite imagery analysis.

      simple visual aid to show how all the shadows and cranes are congruent with the light source:

      Show

      Also most submarines are not wedge shaped like the big shadow of the left crane.