Serious post here, what are your predictions? Do the US sign on for a subscription to Hitler or Hitler+? What makes you believe this?

My take: Harris eeks out a victory, based on the vibes I get. She may flip NC too. I think that second part because the overall trend of polling has had her slowly increasing on average there. AZ is flipping back to Trump this go around.

Second possibility I see is that the electoral college shenanigans the GOP is angling for in NE actually results in the first ever tie. Supreme court gives it to Trump even though he loses the popular vote. Libs say "ah well, never the less".

Either way, I think there's going to be hog riots in MI, PA, and NC if it flips.

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Gaming it out on 270towin.com, assuming Harris takes NV, WI, and PA and Trump gets NC, GA, and AZ, that might make the whole election hinge on Muslim voters in MI.

    Not an enviable position to be in. If they go third party or abstain and throw the election to Trump, Blue MAGA will jump at the excuse to be more racist, and if they hold their nose and vote for Kamala they have to live with the fact that it won't do anything to stop the genocide.

    I'm thinking the democrats lose at least the senate and possibly the house to boot, so domestic policy is going to be a write-off (not that the dems have a ton to show for the last four years)

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      live with the fact that it won't do anything to stop the genocide.

      I mean, there's no hope for any president to do the right thing. Only difference I can tell is that there's rumors of Trump promising to support annexing the West Bank to Sheldon Adelson's widow in exchange for a shit ton of PAC money. That's one thing I can only assume Harris would do something about, but at this rate who knows. Domestic, it's concentration camps with a thin veneer of civility, or turbo concentration camps with no mask. Abortion is still illegal in many states and they'll do nothing at the Fed level - this feels like the carrot on the end of the stick is now in the hands of libs, whereas chuds finally got what they wanted. Versus Trump will absolutely try to push for a fed ban.

      • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        I don't think abortion moves the needle too much this round. The Republicans have been pretty quiet and, while it does drive turnout when it's on the ballot, I think most people are still viewing it as a local issue.

        Biden was successful in 2020 because the dems were highly successful at painting him as the safe option. That's not really part of the messaging this time, so I think it's going to be like 2016, where it's a question of what a few key constituencies in a few strategic areas are thinking. Muslims in MI are definitely one, folks affected by the hurricane may be another, some randos in PA that didn't constitute a coherent bloc until now and who therefore were not sampled well in polls might be a third.

        The only question mark around the chuds is how motivated they are to turn out because there's zero chance they get flipped, and they tend to be reliable voters who want to see their guy in charge regardless of the presence of an agenda.