Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The funny thing is, when Pinker and his ilk make that global poverty reduction argument for capitalism, the vast majority of that is in China. This only goes to 2011 but the trend hasn't changed. China has reduced poverty below levels in a lot of long-industrialized Western nation and is continuing to do. This is the primary reason for the enormous popular support of the CPC's leadership. People feel the material improvement in their lives every day.

        • CommieGirl69 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          deng was worried about that too, he has a famous phrase where he says (in a very chinese way lol) that when you open the window the flies will come in

          my problem is with takes like "the CPC isn't marxist anymore", it's dumb and pretty reductionist, and usually anti-materialist too (which is kinda funny, to use a non-marxist conception of reality to state that a party has abandoned marxism lol)

          however, having doubts over whether the CPC can control capital as they administrate this historically necessary stage, that is a perfectly valid discussion to have imo. so far i think they've proven to be able to do so, but it's hard to know for sure, especially in the future

          funnily enough, i think consolidating companies (which implies concentrating wealth) might be easier for the transition, as it's a lot better to remove a small number capitalists than millions of small business tyrants

      • Perplexiglass [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        You are absolutely correct. It's being done explicitly to pat themselves on the back with rhetorical redundancy.