From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...

  • boardbyboard [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    Annoying internet arguments aside, the people on the ground in the core also face the most expansive and advanced police state mankind has created yet. This makes doing anything close to truly subversive impossible without extreme precautions. Some Ferguson organizers dying (being murdered imo) comes to mind.

    • IzyaKatzmann [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      I searched Ferguson and got some stuff about BLM protests in reaction to the murder of an 18 year old. Was there something more recent or was this what you were referring to?

      • boardbyboard [comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tied-ferguson-protests-have-died-n984261

        yes the shooting of Michael Brown from 10 years ago. Weird to type out, goddamn

          • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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            11 months ago

            found dead inside torched cars

            Ah yes, a very normal and non-suspicious death that happens normally

            Obviously not at all in this case, but it is normal for a certain car manufacturer my-hero

      • PandaBearGreen [they/them]
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        11 months ago

        plz explain. do you hold hope for america? I feel like the Ukraine thing is just because the way democrats just rallied behind another proxy war, and when you say that they go BOT!!

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Also to expand on this, the vast majority of people in the US who consider themselves progressive, who are likely the ones that could otherwise be convinced to join in to a labor movement, are exactly the ones who have been persuaded to believe the #1 priority for good people™ is to support Ukraine. They have also been persuaded to believe that anyone who says otherwise is a threat to freedom and democracy™. In short, the war propaganda has reset a lot of the progress we made during the Trump years where people started to see how broken and irreconcilable amerikkka was, by giving them false consciousness.

      • boardbyboard [comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        Where in my comment did I give anyone an out? I simply added to the conversation by stating a difficulty of organizing.

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      It is obvious there were murdered by the police, you shouldn't hedge your bets on this.