From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...
Please never go on South African twitter or Facebook if you think the stuff you've seen on Lemmy is bad and gives you no hope. There are plenty of dumbasses in the global south/third world