More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful

    • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      This is probably more of a symptom than a cause, but social media platforms pushing manosphere content isn't helping.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Rapid increases in the productive forces of South Korea has resulted in a progressive population of women and a hyper-reactionary population of men, the increase in productive forces was so rapid it caused a hyper-sharpening of contradictions with tradition.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.

        • Tinidril@midwest.social
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          2 months ago

          Women live in the same declining capitalistic society as men, yet they are far more resistant to fascism. That's not to say there is something wrong with men or masculinity. Society puts different pressures on men and women so they react differently.

        • DancingBear@midwest.social
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          2 months ago

          Masculinity by your argument is also rooted in the development of vaccines, all of the aspects of technological progress, and also all progressive social movements that have resulted in more equitable distribution of political power, ie voting rights act, giving women the vote, etc.

          • Cakey@discuss.tchncs.de
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            2 months ago

            I mean, if history lessons in Italy taught me anything, the 'super uomo D'Annunziano', "D'annunzio" and the original italian 'fascism' are pretty much linked.

        • UlyssesT
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          18 days ago

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        • TheDoctor [they/them]
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          2 months ago

          This is insulting as fuck. I grew up as a boy with plenty of reactionary beliefs because patriarchy is a fucking prison. And as I got older and got called out for it, you know what I didn’t do? Become a fucking fascist. I wasn’t pushed towards fascism. I was already reactionary and fascism would have required less work of me. That’s not the same thing. And it lets people off the hook to suggest otherwise.

          • Ok so ur smart enough not to be a fascist congratulations for achieving the bare minimum. Do u think most people are bright enough to go "ohhh yeah fascism is my fault because of the gender i was born i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions" or do they go "no fuck you and fuck everything you stand for"?

            • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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              2 months ago

              ohhh yeah fascism is my fault

              I mean if the shoe fits

              because of the gender i was born

              it's this aggrieved "wah poor me for being born a man" shit that makes people disregard your bullshit in the first place. whatever happened to masculinity being defined by setting your jaw, gritting your teeth, and fixing your own fuckeries before they could adversely harm your surroundings?

              i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions

              literally the bare fucking minimum a cracker could do and you phrase it like it's an impossible fucking pipe dream. and you wonder why people disregard and avoid bullshit peddlers like you.

              christ, our species is cooked if you're an example of the kind of man the future has to look forward to

          • Tinidril@midwest.social
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            2 months ago

            How is it insulting? I didn't say it was you. Fascism is a social phenomenon driven almost entirely by men. That doesn't mean all men are fascists, or that there is something wrong with masculinity. It's about certain men in certain situations reacting in what is an entirely predictable way. It is perhaps an insult to fascist men, but I'm comfortable insulting them.

        • Tinidril@midwest.social
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          2 months ago

          No, it's not "men's" fault, but the people who's fault it is are primarily men. That's not an opinion, that's just history, not to mention what's happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?