Yellow man bad, china no food uiighhers genocide iPhone.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    There is massive pushback from the actual people of japan against US bases. Their cucked by the US right wing government does not give a shit tho.

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      There is massive pushback from the actual people of japan against US bases

      https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/09/PG_2018.10.1_U.S.-Image_1-2.png

      Not really, most Japanese love the US. 29% oppose, 67% approve.

      For comparison, that's more favorable than almost every European country. It's not just the government, most of the nation truly sees the US as the "good guys".

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        Those 29% are probably the people who actually live near US bases in japan.

        1/3 of the population seems pretty substantial to me. But by all means, go ahead and ignore them if you want.

        I also fail to see what this has to do with some poor guy getting the shit beaten out of him in NY because of Yellow Peril 2.0

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          That's less than every european country save Poland, which is pretty much a "murica good" cult at this point

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            Not sure what your point is here really. I posted a story about an asian dude getting fucked up in NY, which was obviously a direct consequence of anti-chinese scaremongering in western media, and you show up here with "well, japan bad".

            This is getting kinda weird tbh.

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              The average Japanese person is unaware that their country is a US vassal state, and that most of their economic woes are due to US military-backed "diplomacy" that forcibly manipulated their currency in the 1980s, killing their huge export advantage in many tech sectors, transferring them over to US companies, and forcibly transferring much of their tech along the way.

              All of this is literally the reason for "hikikomoris" and such but the average Japanese person is blissfully unaware of it, and because of this they actually pathologically blame themselves, when the actual problem is that their country is literally a US prostitute.

              But again I'm betting they don't learn any of this shit in the US-centric sanitized history they learn.

              If Japan had somehow had nukes in 1980 and no US bases, it'd be even more dominant than it was back then.

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                Completely irrelevant. I posted something that happened to an asian person in the US.

                He could have been from anywhere in asia, but the point is that what happened to him was because of the anti-chinese propaganda that is currently being peddled by both US parties.

                Is this really so hard to understand?

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                  Completely irrelevant. I posted something that happened to an asian person in the US.

                  Yes, you posted something that happened to a Japanese person for being mistaken as "Chinese". Because Northeast Asian ethnicities look fairly similar to each other.

                  A majority of Japanese support racist US white supremacist hegemony, dislike China's rise, and will not change their position even upon seeing stories like these, because they think they'll somehow be unaffected by it. Even though it has already ruined their country.

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              My point is that the Japanese government is illegitimate and more importantly, that most Japanese people are brainwashed to a such a degree that it affects the sense of self

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                That still has fuck all to do with an asian guy being attacked in NY because of mUh cHiNa bAd propaganda.

                But god forbid that the US actually take responsibility for their shitty actions, right? Keep on trucking.

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                  That still has fuck all to do with an asian guy being attacked in NY because of mUh cHiNa bAd propaganda.

                  I mean the main intention of my comment was to show the conflicting realities of "racist white american government" and "Japanese nation still loving them despite this"

                  People will see this story, think "oh too bad", or if they're fashy even have some anti-Chinese thoughts, and then go on continuing their pro-US mental existence.

                  Obviously this doesn't apply to the minority of people there who oppose the US.

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                    Me: "Hey comrades, this japanese guy just got the shit beaten out of him by a bunch of racist dipshits who mistook him for a chinese person. This is what anti-chinese propaganda leads to!"

                    You: "But japan bad tho."

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                      Not really, I'm just wondering out loud how many more of these will have to happen before any sort of real anti-US sentiment becomes apparent.

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                        You just provided data that shows 29% of the japanese people are anti-us. That's like 40 million people, and that seems pretty fucking "real" to me.

                        Not that it matters, because that has nothing to do with this post at all (why is that so difficult for you to understand?), but still.

                        Holy shit, what is even going on rn.

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                          You just provided data that shows 29% of the japanese people are anti-us.

                          I also provided data that 67% of Japanese people are pro-US. that's like 90 million people

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                            Ok, cool.

                            Now explain to me what that has to do with a japanese person getting beat up in NY because of anti-chinese propaganda.

                            Tie your arguments into the story I posted. Please.

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                              Now explain to me what that has to do with a japanese person getting beat up in NY because of anti-chinese propaganda.

                              Easy. If I was Japanese (which means I'm of Asian appearance), and I found out that people of my ethnicity were being assaulted in the US due to being mistaken as Chinese, it would make me mad at Americans.

                              I would think about the situation, and find more common ground with China.

                              Now, would you explain to me how 67% of Japanese people having a favorable view of the US is "massive pushback against it". Everything I said was a reaction to this statement of yours, so you'd better explain it first.

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                          For the record, I don't think the Japanese are totally unique in that aspect.

                          I feel the same way about Indian Hindus who love Trump (because of his anti-Muslim rhetoric). It's cringe as fuck to look at.

                          even when you’ve been given evidence that contradicts that.

                          What evidence? That they approve of the US more than most western European countries?

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                              Well if you google “popularity of US military bases in Japan” like I just did you’d find stuff like Ten thousand people protesting them

                              That's cool. Now why do most Japanese people have a positive view of the US?

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                                  40 million japanese people are like a fart in the wind to this guy.

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                                    No, you're just really bad at keeping track of your own arguments. I'll repeat them to you.

                                    There is massive pushback from the actual people of japan against US bases. Their cucked by the US right wing government does not give a shit tho.

                                    Using your logic, I can claim "massive pushback" against anything, and I can say there's massive pushback against US anti-China propaganda, because I can find a hundred thousand people on Nathan Rich's channel or something.

                                    I cited numbers showing that Japanese people are 67% pro and 29% anti US. For some inexplicable reason, you are choosing to say that this 29% anti-US sentiment qualifies as "massive pushback", when almost every country in the world has such percentages. That's worse than the fucking UK.

                                    You also claimed that they are simply "cucked by the US right wing government", but the numbers clearly show that the vast majority of Japanese people SUPPORT the US. You are ignoring this because you are angry, for some reason.

                                    My point was simply to illustrate that there is not "massive Japanese pushback" against the US government, which was your initial claim. Somehow this has become racist now.

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                                      This is the very first reply posted here, by you:

                                      continues to still host tens of thousands of corona-infested US military thugs on their island

                                      And I'm the one here who has problems keeping track of my arguments? You were the one who first brought the nation of japan up. I never even mentioned it before you did. Hilarious.

                                      Please explain what in the actual fuck that has to do with the linked story.

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                                        People in the US continue assaulting Japanese people because they hate Asians so much, and Japanese people look like Chinese people (whom the US especially hates)

                                        the nation of Japan continues supporting the US, and opposing China, and the majority of Japanese people continue having a favorable and unfavorable view of these nations, respectively

                                        It's a massive non sequitir. Apparently pointing this out is racist now.

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                                          I was editing my comment while you was writing this, read it again, and try to give it a coherent answer.

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                                            It's a sarcastic joke. Is this your first time browsing the website? Responses like these are basically the rule on here.

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                                              Oh, so now it's "just a joke bro lol"?

                                              Good job, very cool. I've been owned.

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                                                Yes, it's a joke that takes the anti-Asian, anti-Chinese and anti-Japanese sentiment of the US government AND the US populace, and juxtaposes it with the apparent willingness of Japan to host the US.

                                                It's not JUST a joke, I was obviously completely serious about the intention behind the joke.

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                                                    anyway I'm tired, and I'm also getting dogpiled on by someone who's still mad that I said "women by definition aren't minorities"

                                                    Not responding anymore

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                                                      anyway I’m tired, and I’m also getting dogpiled on by someone who’s still mad that I said “women by definition aren’t minorities”

                                                      "You guys didn't like that take? Let me just intentionally repeat other bad takes I've been criticized for in the past."

                                                      Why are you here?

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                                                      Aww, poor little darling. Lol. Maybe you should check out r/stupidpol on r*ddit, I'm sure you'll fit right in over there.