• Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    i don't think on either side it's conscious or intentional, but both trump and harris are desperately racing to lose

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      I think Trump probably doesn't really want to be president again. I think Harris is desperate to win, she's just a born loser

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, this is kinda what still makes me think it will be a toss up. Harris is doing the Democrat thing, but Trump just seems done with it all.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        trump is low energy, getting weird, doing explicit, not dogwhistled, eugenicism in interviews now. he's pretty shaken up from the assassination attempt. his core is locked in, but he's not at his previous level for doing fascist agitprop to get new voters in. harris has some of the worst political instincts imaginable and is committed to alienating anyone too disgusted by genocide to support her. worse, her campaign is being ran by the joe biden campaigners with the worst instincts imaginable. hence all this dumbass appeal to bipartisanship, political strategems developed for the climate of the goddamn jimmy carter years

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        2 months ago

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        • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          I think that's true for Holocaust Harris too though. If genocide isn't enough to get people to divest from the Democratic Party then nothing will be enough

    • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 months ago

      This seems to be a recent trend across the western world. Nobody wants to seem to win anymore. It's like they know they're at the end of the line. There are no solutions and nobody wants to be left with the bag when the music stops. We're at the socialism or barbarism fork in the road again and not many of them have the stomach for explicitly taking the barbarism path even if they know for sure they won't take the socialist one.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        the interesting part to me is all the ways it seems like they know but in fact they don't. in reality it's just the terminal processes of capitalism grinding slower and slower. everyone remotely in charge of any amount of power is simply responding to their own self-interest. kamala harris needs those donors, so she's going to tack to the center-right, despite it being electoral suicide, despite how desperately she personally wants the win. her world, as a person who acted in ways that allowed her to be carried to this position now, does not include the kind of real ideological dedication to even something as nebulous and dubious as "human empathy" that might allow her to win. tim walz has just a bit of that backbone, and it's very funny to watch them choke it out of him. see his defense of fertility treatment and abortion access vs his defense of the fascist border legislation that harris is running on. like two completely different people. one is capable and articulate, the other is saying matt miller type lines with poor execution. but he really thinks he might get to do something if he wins, so he's trying to go along with it. you can also see how well it would actually work with voters from the little moment right where they announced him and before the ghouls got there where he popped off. by the debates he "agree[s] with a lot of what you're saying" with jd "bloodboy" vance. and really, under all of it i think, the fact that they can't figure this out when the same calculation seemingly worked for bill clinton, is that they don't understand that they're running out of people to exploit effectively. some part of it doesn't work any more. maybe just the inefficiencies proscribed by the demand for increasing profits driving self-consumption even in corporations that are objectively successful, a la boeing.