It is very obvious at this point that the Democratic Party will become the new Republican Party.
Trump created a historic opportunity that the Democrats could only have dreamed of - a Republican president who somehow managed to piss off the National Security State, the Military Industrial Complex, the Oil and Gas Industry, and the Wall Street Finance Capitalists all at the same time, where many of whom have been traditional supporters of the Republican Party.
Trump is the true Pied Piper candidate - only in the longer term than Hillary had anticipated - and the Democrats would be stupid not to take the opportunity gifted to them.
What will become of the Republican Party then? MAGA culture war petit bourgeois idiots will take over the party. The traditional bourgeois base is already jumping ship.
Remember, the Democrats do not want Republican voters, they want the Republican donors. The 1% that matters. This is the key to understanding the Democratic strategy.
You know, this reminds me of this quote:
In the first French Revolution the rule of the Constitutionalists is followed by the rule of the Girondists and the rule of the Girondists by the rule of the Jacobins. Each of these parties relies on the more progressive party for support. As soon as it has brought the revolution far enough to be unable to follow it further, still less to go ahead of it, it is thrust aside by the bolder ally that stands behind it and sent to the guillotine. The revolution thus moves along an ascending line.
It is the reverse with the {U.S elections of 2024}
More like the Democrats are going back to their roots with a combination of the Bourbon Democrats fiscal policy and the Wilsonian foreign policy.
It’s difficult to tell where Republicans might go after MAGA. Republicans aren’t unfamiliar with periods of political realignment. There could be a strong third party candidate like Teddy Roosevelt or George Wallace that play a role in where both parties ultimately end up. RFK isn’t it and neither is Jill Stein.
I could see the GOP pivoting to some soft MAGA communism minus the communism, so MAGA social democracy.
i don't think on either side it's conscious or intentional, but both trump and harris are desperately racing to lose
This seems to be a recent trend across the western world. Nobody wants to seem to win anymore. It's like they know they're at the end of the line. There are no solutions and nobody wants to be left with the bag when the music stops. We're at the socialism or barbarism fork in the road again and not many of them have the stomach for explicitly taking the barbarism path even if they know for sure they won't take the socialist one.
the interesting part to me is all the ways it seems like they know but in fact they don't. in reality it's just the terminal processes of capitalism grinding slower and slower. everyone remotely in charge of any amount of power is simply responding to their own self-interest. kamala harris needs those donors, so she's going to tack to the center-right, despite it being electoral suicide, despite how desperately she personally wants the win. her world, as a person who acted in ways that allowed her to be carried to this position now, does not include the kind of real ideological dedication to even something as nebulous and dubious as "human empathy" that might allow her to win. tim walz has just a bit of that backbone, and it's very funny to watch them choke it out of him. see his defense of fertility treatment and abortion access vs his defense of the fascist border legislation that harris is running on. like two completely different people. one is capable and articulate, the other is saying matt miller type lines with poor execution. but he really thinks he might get to do something if he wins, so he's trying to go along with it. you can also see how well it would actually work with voters from the little moment right where they announced him and before the ghouls got there where he popped off. by the debates he "agree[s] with a lot of what you're saying" with jd "bloodboy" vance. and really, under all of it i think, the fact that they can't figure this out when the same calculation seemingly worked for bill clinton, is that they don't understand that they're running out of people to exploit effectively. some part of it doesn't work any more. maybe just the inefficiencies proscribed by the demand for increasing profits driving self-consumption even in corporations that are objectively successful, a la boeing.
I think Trump probably doesn't really want to be president again. I think Harris is desperate to win, she's just a born loser
Yeah, this is kinda what still makes me think it will be a toss up. Harris is doing the Democrat thing, but Trump just seems done with it all.
trump is low energy, getting weird, doing explicit, not dogwhistled, eugenicism in interviews now. he's pretty shaken up from the assassination attempt. his core is locked in, but he's not at his previous level for doing fascist agitprop to get new voters in. harris has some of the worst political instincts imaginable and is committed to alienating anyone too disgusted by genocide to support her. worse, her campaign is being ran by the joe biden campaigners with the worst instincts imaginable. hence all this dumbass appeal to bipartisanship, political strategems developed for the climate of the goddamn jimmy carter years
can do pretty much nothing to lower his approval/support ratings. His cult is locked in.I think that's true for Holocaust Harris too though. If genocide isn't enough to get people to divest from the Democratic Party then nothing will be enough
It's really sad but Biden will probably be the most progressive president we'll see on domestic issues. Democrats are fully sold on making a right wing turn after him. If they eat shit this election? They'll make another right wing turn. Awful party, rotten to the core
If they lose they’ll blame it on not choosing Shapiro and they’ll run with Chris Christie as VP next time around.
Wild that Ben is the morally superior Shapiro in this situation
Well little ben probably caused some stochastic terrorism so let's call it a wash
"We're adding members of the Hitler party to the government" is a sentiment that sucks ass and anybody who acts like it's pragmatic or whatever five dollar word can go suck that ass
Christ I am so tired of these people
Including members of the Hitler party in your administration is a really hard sell when you're also banking on the Hitler party being so disgusting that voters plug their nose to vote for you.
You mean it wasn't just about
age and cognition problems, but his policy? Waaaaaaaaaa 
Really doing everything they can to recreate 2016 huh? I couldn't believe they hired a bunch of Hillary campaign advisors --- the people who lost to DONALD TRUMP (and under a rational system would have never been allowed to organize campaigns again); to somehow help Kamala win by doing the exact same things and worse that had Hillary lose before, against the same opponent
And Biden has republican friends in congress and a republican attorney General?
Why does she think that's an accomplishment or distinguishing feature between the 2
Biden's entire nomination was due to his supposed ability to "reach across the aisle," and to form coalitions. But that is politics of the past; the world has moved on.
This is why some in that party wanted some kind of bizarre mini primary. Part was that they wanted a chance to be kingmakers and gain leverage, but part was that they knew Harris was a loser
Do you really think so? Upon absolutely zero inspection I have thought that she was going to run away with the election vs. an old, dried-out, death-fearing Trump
she's fumbling so hard its insane, i think this is going to turn out to be an even worse fumble than hillary clinton's
It's like jumping into a marathon fresh at mile 25 and then rolling your ankle every 100 feet.
Honest question, how much do you think her performance will be affected by who she is and what she says? Vs just not being Trump and being a Democrat.
Again I really haven't paid much attention at all to this election cycle, but in my everyday life it seems that people are far more up front and proud to vote for her than people were for Joe four years ago.
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net interested in your opinion as well
enough to lose, it's not guaranteed but polling has shown she's squandered almost all of that momentum with her current campaigning and her refusal to court muslim voters could unironically cost her michigan which she cannot afford to do and still win the electoral college
Based on vibes alone I think she's got a good shot of winning. Hope she doesn't, but the Democrats are banking on their base being so racist that they don't give a shit about the fact that their heroes are mass-murderers. My experience with white liberal Americans during the War on Terror years has me absolutely convinced that the Democrats are betting correctly. Turnout will, if anything, be more helped than hurt by the Democrats going dull Nazi because crackers derive intense sexual satisfaction from looking at the mangled bodies of dead brown people.
how much do you think her performance will be affected by who she is and what she says? Vs just not being Trump and being a Democrat.
2016 might answer your question
Hahaha true. I do think Trump's age and the fact that he is a known quantity are both working against him this time though.
he's also just less funny. He leaned more to the "my crowd sizes~!" part of his schtick and away from the "Ted Cruz' Dad killed JFK" part. though "DEYRE EATING DA DOGS" was pretty funny. but the consequences of it were less so.
Bluesky
"I'll appoint a (nominal) member of the other party to the Cabinet" is the absolute cheapest, most inconsequential pro forma token bipartisanship thing you can do, which is why everyone pre-Trump did it.
Dirty little secret about Cabinet gigs: most of them don't matter and have no real power.
https://subium.com/profile/andycraig.bsky.social/post/3l5zky2vlj42o
Ahem. You misspelled Secretary of Defense.
And every day he sends Kamala an
URGENTmemo indicting that the US must do a pre-emptive strike on Iran because they are a week away from having operational nuclear missiles.
"If she really means it, she should appoint Republicans to powerful positions!"
All they fucking had to do was not support a genocide. How fucking stupid are these people?
Yeah but they had an easy pr win with the Ukraine proxy war. If they were really desperate, take a side in Sudan or help Nigeria invade Niger.
As a Canadian trying as hard as I can not to pay attention, I'm pretty sure she's still gonna win. Been wrong about Trump before but he isn't bringing the sauce he uses to and the Neo KHive seems to be doing okay off the smug. I hate to see them rewarded
duheuhh.... pleease...
