i pointed out the absolutely inane usage of chud talking points that equate any form of lgbtq as being a mental illness that is intrinsically abusive and bad for everyone involved.
the comment was “it … glorifies parasocialism and emotional disassociation” or, in other words, that the entire community is a mental illness.
Yeah, I don't think xxtrash meant it this way, but usually when I see people say this stuff about furries, the implication (whether or not stated outright) is "and this is why it's okay to harass them/dox them/encourage them to kill themselves."
Yeah sorry I should have clarified it better. It's hard for me to verbalize what the issue is. It's like, there are big artists who market themselves as a character, but also as themselves? So you get people who fawn over a certain character, and then the artists use that "in" as a way to approach people for abuse. When it's a fandom made up of people having curated identities the lines between boundaries become blurred. As expression I have no issue with it, but as a fandom with conventions, merchandise, and where people literally market themselves as a form of product- things get fucked up.
It needs to be said that The commodification of the social media individual in this late stage capitalism is pretty much the same thing; fandoms just got there first. But you will find the same parasocial toxicity among streamers , youtubers, instagram celebrities, hell i'm not even going to attempt to open the weird ass can of worms that the bodybuilding community tends to be...
i never said it was "the same."
i pointed out the absolutely inane usage of chud talking points that equate any form of lgbtq as being a mental illness that is intrinsically abusive and bad for everyone involved.
which is absolutely what the above argument is.
They didn't say that being a furry makes you abusive, just that the way the community exists creates a potential for abuse.
Idunno. Either way, since you're not equating the two experiences
"the potential for abuse is something to watch out for, so lets make sure the community is the best it can be" isnt what the comment was though.
the comment was "it ... glorifies parasocialism and emotional disassociation" or, in other words, that the entire community is a mental illness.
which is exactly what chuds say about all lgbtq communities.
thats not okay.
I agree with you there
Yeah, I don't think xxtrash meant it this way, but usually when I see people say this stuff about furries, the implication (whether or not stated outright) is "and this is why it's okay to harass them/dox them/encourage them to kill themselves."
Yeah sorry I should have clarified it better. It's hard for me to verbalize what the issue is. It's like, there are big artists who market themselves as a character, but also as themselves? So you get people who fawn over a certain character, and then the artists use that "in" as a way to approach people for abuse. When it's a fandom made up of people having curated identities the lines between boundaries become blurred. As expression I have no issue with it, but as a fandom with conventions, merchandise, and where people literally market themselves as a form of product- things get fucked up.
I'm really frustrated by this conversation.
It needs to be said that The commodification of the social media individual in this late stage capitalism is pretty much the same thing; fandoms just got there first. But you will find the same parasocial toxicity among streamers , youtubers, instagram celebrities, hell i'm not even going to attempt to open the weird ass can of worms that the bodybuilding community tends to be...
When you put it that way, it sounds perfectly reasonable.
dunno if itll make you feel less frustrated, but i agree with everything in this comment :100-com:
exactly.