shamelessly taken from /r shitliberalssay for the glorious bear shape chat

    • CompactTie34 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      lmao "First, the Democratic Party is traditionally closer to the so-called liberal values, closer to Social Democratic ideas, if compared to Europe. And it was from the Social Democratic environment that the Communist Party evolved."

      In reality, you should read the entire passage for context. IMO, he says that Democrats are to the left of current republicans.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        After all, I was a member of the Soviet Communist Party for nearly 20 years, or more precisely 18 years. I was a rank-and-file member, but it can be said that I believed in the party’s ideas. I still like many of these left-wing values. Equality and fraternity. What is bad about them?

        Wow, I didn’t know Putin ever spoke in nostalgic or positive terms about the communist party (even if it’s disingenuous). That part further down about Angela Davis is interesting too.

        • CompactTie34 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          currently, left wing ideas are not mainstream in Russia. I hope his statements will allow for more open discussion. One can only hope eh 😔

          • koro1452 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Russians don't miss communism because of ideals. They miss the national pride, strong government, economic safety. Putin is nazbol at best and fascist at worst, don't expect anything to change in Russia.

            • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              The Russian government isn't fascist but there are people with fascist-like views (like Dugin) in the ruling party and government. I don't think it's fair to categorize the whole government as nazbol, but they do make some rhetorical appeals to that sort of ideology. They're only driven by self preservation, they don't want an alternative political organization (to their left or to their right) to arise which would challenge their power and "destabilize" society. They basically control every significant political force outside of a small, mostly liberal opposition that's mostly supported by educated urbanites. Relative to where the Russian populace is at in their political beliefs it's a centrist government that happens to be authoritarian.