Obviously he didnt deserve the harassment he got regardless. Like even if he was dogshit he wouldnt have deserved that. But I just rewatched Phantom Menace for the first time in awhile. Young friend of mine are going through the star wars movies because she was a sheltered homeschooled kid and hadnt seen them. Already did the OT, starting on the prequels.

Other than the obvious "oh wow, the racial stereotypes of literally three different alien species in this movie is insane", the main takeaway my rewatch gave me is "wow ok, Jake LLoyd is average at worst". He was just like, a regular kid actor? Nothing to write home about like say, young Maise Williams or something. But absolutely fine?

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Being an average child actor is sort of by definition bad. Child actors have not had years to train to convey or even honestly learn a broad array of human emotions. There are sometimes good child actors and they are unusual and, for this reason, noteworthy. (And FWIW I think Jake Lloyd was below-average child actor, but it's not necessary to agree for my point to stand.)

    Jake Lloyd was terrible, but like it's not his fault - he was a child. It's Lucas's fault for unnecessarily trying to start his story at childhood, not waiting until a genuinely natural child actor came along and not giving Lloyd (or anyone) natural dialog to work with.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      I'd say the last part had a bigger influence than the kids' actual ability shrug-outta-hecks (the natural dialog part). And direction problems too probably. With kid actors I think direction matters a significant amount more than talent.

      Anyway obviously I disagree that he was in any way noteably bad. A few lines were wooden but again, I feel that was a direction issue. |

      I do think its hard to imagine his story not starting when he was a kid though. So that part I definitively disagree with.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      Given that some extremely good actors gave very hollow, wooden and terrible performances for the prequels I am going to blame it on the director as he's the common thread.

      Samuel Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Natalie Portman all sucked extremely bad in these too. It takes effort to make these actors boring and flat.