I'm trans and I really don't want to federated with these people if their mods are defending the -tard suffix and they aren't getting de-modded and banned. I also don't want to be federated with them if they ban critiquing western chauvinism.
Someone who is an admin and with more of a level head than me RN please talk to their admins about it.
Anybody else think all these lib instances that are shidding and farding because they're outnumbered by our powerful posters won't be here in a year? These people are all just temporarily annoyed redditors and they'll be back on reddit before Christmas.
That seems likely.
Eh, they'll probably shrink but stick around IMHO
Definitely possible, but I suspect the admins of instances that stall out will shut them down due to cost and management time required to keep them alive. Of course, they could also go the raddle direction and their admins could just make a bunch of sockpuppet accounts to talk to themselves with, so...
100%. The only reason to stick with a shitty Reddit clone instead of just going back to Reddit is because you can't use Reddit. "Can't use Reddit" isn't a technical limitation but a social and political one. The main people who will actually stick with Lemmy are:
Socialists
Unhinged fascists (cryptofascists are okay on Reddit)
People who engage in illegal shit (piracy, shoplifting, drug dealing, pedo shit)
You can use this to predict whether an instance will completely stagnate and how fast an instance will become fascist. Beehaw are shriveling into irrelevance because they shut the door for all three. Lemmy.world will become fascist because they defed from 1 and 3. And once Blahaj shut the door on us, the chaser infestation in their community will only grow stronger, and their instance will eventually fall to unhinged fascists as their instance rots from within.
I think Beehaw will start to be far more ok with the second type once their numbers start to dwindle...
I think this will draw lots of people to Hexbear. After all it's me the head anarchist mod calling them out for this shit which makes it a little more difficult to just dismiss us as Tankies. Which they probably will anyway.
Sorry, but you're one of us now. The libs have decided for you. Please turn in your anarchist bandanna in exchange for your new T-34 immediately.
I'm a Tachankie
I see the critical point somewhere else. It's just not very fun managing an instance that gets bigger without getting anything in return. Especially once you establish values like freedom of speech and opinion and claim everyone is welcome to make an account, until people you don't want on your instance start joining. And that's when it spirals out of control, you start banning them because they make your experience as an admin worse, but then your users are not actually beholden to your relatively tiny instance and can go anywhere else. You're not Reddit where all the stuff happens, you're a lemmy instance and there's others right there.
Places like beehaw and lemmy world are now getting a lot of donations and maybe they'll start paying themselves with it as a side hustle, so we'll see. The reason places like lemmygrad and hexbear are fun to browse is because we're generally all in agreement. I don't mean that we don't disagree and form an echo chamber, but that we don't have to explain basic etiquette and generally don't flame and troll each other over nothing.
If you've been on Reddit you'll remember the dread you felt when receiving that little orange notification in your inbox.
Would people who are just genuinely interested in FOSS and federated social media mainly just fall into the other groups?
I really would like for the fediverse to become mainstream if not the dominant form of social media, even if that means a lot of liberals. At the same time, I feel like people need to approach the fediverse with a certain mindset that you're not likely to find in consumer-brained liberals. That's probably the main appeal of the fediverse for me: feeling like I'm actually contributing to something as an active participant. So I wouldn't describe Lemmy as shitty by any means, especially when I'm browsing through Alexandrite — it's just something that appeals to a different type of person than Reddit.
I guess what I'm saying is that I want the fediverse to become the predominant form of social media not necessarily by making it emulate centralized, proprietary social media as much as possible, but by making more people into "fediverse people". I think that making people feel like competent actors capable of taking control of their own lives is vital to building a revolution, even in people who haven't yet taken to leftist ideas, and part of that is going to be small things like using a social media platform that has a bit of a learning curve and asks a bit more of its users.
I dunno if this makes any sense. This is barely even relevant to the comment I'm replying to, I just wanted to say it.
IMO, no because FOSS stuff is already covered by Reddit. You'll have ideologically committed people who will use Fediverse stuff just like how some people use Linux/BSD for ideological reasons, but they're a small minority.
And as for the rest of your comment, there's more to the fediverse than Lemmy. When people say, "Fuck Reddit, I'm going to use X instead," X by no means has to be Lemmy. It could be Discord, Mastodon, Twitter, Tumblr, Threads, and so on. Musk is running Twitter to the ground but people still use it, and no matter how terrible spez is, he is nowhere near as incompetent as Musk, which means most people will stick with Reddit. People who use Lemmy are essentially people who want to use Reddit but can't use Reddit for ideological reasons or because what they want to discuss would break Reddit ToS.
Yeah, I was thinking of the ideologically committed people, as well as just enthusiasts who might use Lemmy occasionally just to support the project. I figured they would represent a larger share of the user base. What makes you say they'd be a small minority?
I think you misunderstood what I meant by the other paragraphs. I was just trying to say that I want to see a migration from all centralized platforms to all fediverse platforms — I wasn't trying to say anything about the how and why of the Reddit migration as it actually happened.
You're completely right about what you've written, but it wasn't really what I was thinking about.
I'm just basing it on my experience with Linux. Most people install Linux on a particular machine for technical reasons (not wanting to put up with Windows, wanting to install a modern OS on an old machine with XP, wanting an OS that's more suitable for servers than what Microsoft has to offer) or for hobbyist reasons (wanting something to tinker with, wanting to see if they can get away with running a certain DE on a certain physical device, distrohopping in general). The ideological reason is there, but it's rarely the main focus. If ideological reasons were that strong, Firefox wouldn't be losing this badly to Chrome.
Point taken.
Oh, just wait until Chrome gets rid of adblockers, then you'll see! :P
So far my only real experience with Linux has been in a virtual machine. I'd been planning on switching my laptop over to Linux in 2025 with the end-of-service of Windows 10, but with the amount of obnoxious ad notifications I'm already getting on Windows these past few months, I just might push the switch to be by the end of this year... So anyways, how's your experience with using Linux been? Let me live vicariously through you!
This is one of the differences between Linux and Windows (and MacOS). Linux doesn't go out of its way to constantly remind you that you're running Linux.
I have been using Linux for around a decade although I'm no expert. There are people here who definitely know their Linux more than me. For me, I switched over to Linux because of the fiasco with Windows 8 not having a start menu.
I would say if you want to switch over to Linux, you shouldn't be overwhelmed by the many distros and should distinguish between a distro and a desktop environment (DE). Pick something based on Ubuntu or Debian because that's what guides are tailored towards.
Yeesh, has it really been that long since Windows 8? I guess it feels newer to me since I skipped that version of Windows entirely.
Way ahead of you. :-)
I've been on Linux for like 17 years so I can't really share an "I switched" experience that will be comparable to yours - I was a teenager and wanted a fully 64 bit OS when those were brand new and windows didn't yet support it. my only option at the time was gentoo and I had to do a full install by hand - it took two weeks of work cause I had no clue what I was doing and building toolchains takes forever.
luckily, that's all in the past now and you can just install a distro that's ready to go with a nice graphical installer. just pick something reasonably popular like Ubuntu or Mint and you'll be good to go.
Well, Windows just became harder and harder to use over time with Microsoft increasingly fucking with the workflow and layout to get things done, not to mention the fact that the OS itself is spyware and massively bloated. I just got tired of fighting an endless uphill battle that trended steeper and steeper the longer it went on, so I backed up any files I needed and nuked the hard drives of Windows.
I installed a Linux distro in its place and found joy in being the upstream decision maker for 100% of what's going on with my OS. To use Windows meant I had to fight with it constantly, yet Linux did exactly what I told it to do without a fuss. I was so over Windows and proprietary software that I set out to rebuild my entire workflow from scratch, opting to use FOSS (preferably GPL-based) equivalents. My resolve was so strong that I accepted going cold turkey on something if there wasn't a FOSS competitor available (gaming shit, mostly).
It's been over 4 years since I did this, and I've never missed Windows. Linux and FOSS in general is basically free real-estate and has proven to be highly resistant to rug-pulls. I did like a lot of the proprietary software I used to use, but let's be honest here, the TOS of all that shit increasingly required a one-sided, arbitrarily abusive marriage to the company itself. You can only take so much of an abusive relationship before the pain of transition becomes more worthwhile than staying in it. So, I divorced Microsoft and every other company I depended on Windows to run properly, and life's been good ever since.
Having full access to what's under the hood and tinkering around, shaping and tuning things up to suit your needs and your personality is an art. Quite satisfying expressing yourself in that regard, and having it all work for you.
Think about it this way: Minecraft is what Microsoft wants it to be. Minetest is whatever you want Minecraft to be. The latter is far more flexible, far more optimized, and offers a vastly superior experience and set of packages (mods) to suit your specific needs. The actual userbase itself is the upstream, not a company. Thus, power scales horizontally (among the working class, you might say), resulting in a stable upward trend in Quality of Life improvements.
I'd never heard of Minetest. I'll have to look into that.
https://www.minetest.net/
Plenty of info provided on the homepage of the site. It's really cool. Planes, trains, nuclear reactors, computers, books, pride flags (custom flags can be added and I noticed you like making flags (so do I))
Edit: https://content.minetest.net/ for the mod database.
Oh, absolutely. They obviously want things to work exactly like reddit, so why wouldn't they just go back there lol
mastodon.lol, an instance with something like ten thousand users, cracked under the pressure and shut down. I'd be surprised if one of the large-ish instances on lemmy doesn't explode within the next couple of months.
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The way I understood it, the admin of mastodon.lol got into a fight with trans users over whether discussion of the Harry Potter game falls under transphobia, he got some pushback, flew totally off the handle and decided to shut down everything. With thousands of users, heated discussions like that are basically inevitable and administrators have to be able to withstand that or they'll flame out like mastodon.lol did.
lmfao youre right I didn't really think about it