For context:
This is a MoG post about a hexbear comment from 7 months ago complaining about the evocation of Charlie Hebdo against the french
A top comment asks "why so mad against french?", and the OP (the main mod and poster of MoG) suggests it's because we "hate france's freedom of speech and their 'anti-islam stance'". Declines to share a link or context to the comment
Out of curiosity I went looking for the context to that comment, and discovered that it was in reaction to a wildly Islamophobic cartoon making a joke about Gazan's starving during the month of ramadan [linky] [CW: Racism, Islamophobia, genocide]:
The mod then goes to great length to avoid commenting on the racist context of the post, as well as any definitive statement acknowledging the Palestinian Genocide or the culpability of Israel and the IOF. Tries to whatabout China, Russia, and Iran
Turns out libs actually do practice critical support, but instead of critically supporting AES projects they support any state crusading against muslims.
Racist magazine spends decades screaming slurs and inciting race hatred. Racist magazine gets attacked by people from the group they were inciting race hatred against. Libs expect me to care. Very strange situation.
the notion that Gazans are being genocided as retribution for their "universal religious fundamentalism" is fucking asinine, not least because the genocidaires are engaged in their own explicitly ethnotheocratic state project
I definitely misread their statement, but the reality of what they are saying is so much more depraved than what I assumed that I am completely overcome with disgust.
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arguing with fascists tends to have that effect on the reasonable unfortunately
I feel less bad about the sweeping generalizations I made about the french in my rant in the mod matrix channel the other day now.
I had a struggle session with my partner about why I seem to have such a bias against the French as that sort of bias is out of character for me and I couldn't figure it out.
Eventually I realized it's the colonialism and hateful xenophobia against Muslims / anyone less than lily white. When I explained that was why, they apologized and became a hater with mW.
Holy shit imagine actually typing "they dislike them for their anti Muslim sentiment, it doesn't make sense"
"Yea I dont get it they don't like us just because we're bigots, doesn't make any sense."
You dislike the French because of their racist cartoons.
I dislike the French because of their horrific treatment of the Vietnamese.
We are not the… okay actually that’s pretty much a 1:1.
Before I went looking for the context I had a few guesses about what the comment was in response to, and honestly it could have been half a dozen other ones but given it was goat I figured it was probably Gaza/Palestine/Islam related
goat is terrible, I remember calling them out when the MeanwhileOnGrad profile picture was a racist Xi/Winnie the Pooh caricature and they had endless apologism. We should never refederate with sh.itjust.works.
I found these today when I skimmed their post history:
I am just astounded by this… nothing justifies violence? Not even the Native Americans’ resistance to colonialism? The Ethiopians’ resistance to Fascism? The Jewish resistance to the Axis? Those were all unjustified?
I honestly don't think he sees how absurd that insistence is, or else is extremely mindful of his own language to avoid contradicting his statements of non-violence.
He clearly has no problem with violence against Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran/Russia/China/anyOtherWesternBoogyman, but he's careful never to outright say it. Whenever he gets close he deflects by whatabouting Iran or Russia or China.
Anytime somebody says that there's never an excuse for violence you should just immeidatly say "give me your wallet or ill kick your ass" and then just keep saying that and calling them a hypocrite if they don't just give it to you.
"There's never an excuse for violence" is just something that sounds good to people who have never thought about anything.
If .world is just a reddit clone .works is the refugees from all the shitty banned subs.
You know what, goat, let's switch to a different topic
Ever hearda Huey Lewis and the news?
i could be angry with the french for a different colonial project every day of the week
Once I found out about the debts they imposed on Haiti after the revolution, I decided that I could never forgive them.
That's not the only thing, but it was my anti-france breaking point.
The French govt.’s means of harassing antifascists, its colonizations in Afrasia along with the Americas, its agreements with Fascist Italy, agreements with the Third Reich, its businessmen’s willing collaboration with the Axis, its willingness to commit antisemitic atrocities, the continuation of Axis elements post‐1945, its present negligence towards refugees (of colour), its complicity in supporting the Zionist entity: all of these phenomena make somebody’s disdain for France slightly easier to understand. The fact that many ordinary French adults also voted for the alt‐right makes the hatred a little easier to understand as well.
The point here is not to justify Francomisia. Whatever one thinks of it, one must first understand it in order to affect it. There are plenty of ways that French adults can reduce Francomisia without either resorting to self‐harm or scolding those who loathe them.
Myself, I can agree that white‐bashing statements like ‘UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON HONKIES NOW’ do become depressing after reading or hearing them so many times, but ultimately it’s just a mouse screaming into a void: it is rare for anybody to assault somebody else for being a white gentile, and even when it does occasionally happen the authorities tend to be extremely unforgiving. So I have bigger things to worry about. I’m part French myself (whoop‐de‐doo) and I tend to shrug off anti‐French remarks since I’m already depressed. Even if somebody hating whites really agitated me, I don’t see how scolding or mocking that person would fix anything.
On a minor note, I think that the original poster misspelt the title. France is not ‘pro‐Islam’.
On a minor note, I think that the original poster misspelt the title. France is not ‘pro‐Islam’.
Thank you comrade, I fixed it (kinda)
Of all the things to dislike the french over, their fries are not one of them... Or their toast.
I block a couple Zionist debate perverts, some dude who posted almost all RFEL/RFA/VOA, and comms like NCD on my general Lemmy account, but I don’t block goat and their comm because it’s mostly just funny watching them froth.
I have to say, I am much less amused by it now than I was even 8 hours ago.
When I get sucked into these vortexes by the end I am praying for the ban-hammer to put an end to my misery. I think he's in Australia or New Zealand or something, so by the time he's back up and active i'm starting to get to the shame and regret part of my self destruction cycle.
