For context:

This is a MoG post about a hexbear comment from 7 months ago complaining about the evocation of Charlie Hebdo against the french

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A top comment asks "why so mad against french?", and the OP (the main mod and poster of MoG) suggests it's because we "hate france's freedom of speech and their 'anti-islam stance'". Declines to share a link or context to the comment

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Out of curiosity I went looking for the context to that comment, and discovered that it was in reaction to a wildly Islamophobic cartoon making a joke about Gazan's starving during the month of ramadan [linky] [CW: Racism, Islamophobia, genocide]:

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The mod then goes to great length to avoid commenting on the racist context of the post, as well as any definitive statement acknowledging the Palestinian Genocide or the culpability of Israel and the IOF. Tries to whatabout China, Russia, and Iran

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Turns out libs actually do practice critical support, but instead of critically supporting AES projects they support any state crusading against muslims.

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  • archomrade [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    4 hours ago

    Aw fuck, he caught me sleepin. I accidentally admitted that post-war USSR might have been influenced by more than just Salin's desire to do the Holomodor and he clapped me.

    He was nice about it though, shook my hand and said GG, offered me to appeal his ruling in 48 hours.

    Don't tell him I fully endorse violence against colonists, I wanna surprise him next time.

  • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    Once I found out about the debts they imposed on Haiti after the revolution, I decided that I could never forgive them.

    That's not the only thing, but it was my anti-france breaking point.

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    11 hours ago

    Holy shit imagine actually typing "they dislike them for their anti Muslim sentiment, it doesn't make sense"

    "Yea I dont get it they don't like us just because we're bigots, doesn't make any sense."

  • RaspberryTuba [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    I block a couple Zionist debate perverts, some dude who posted almost all RFEL/RFA/VOA, and comms like NCD on my general Lemmy account, but I don’t block goat and their comm because it’s mostly just funny watching them froth.

    • archomrade [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      9 hours ago

      I have to say, I am much less amused by it now than I was even 8 hours ago.

      When I get sucked into these vortexes by the end I am praying for the ban-hammer to put an end to my misery. I think he's in Australia or New Zealand or something, so by the time he's back up and active i'm starting to get to the shame and regret part of my self destruction cycle.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    13 hours ago

    You dislike the French because of their racist cartoons.

    I dislike the French because of their horrific treatment of the Vietnamese.

    We are not the… okay actually that’s pretty much a 1:1.

    • archomrade [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      13 hours ago

      Before I went looking for the context I had a few guesses about what the comment was in response to, and honestly it could have been half a dozen other ones but given it was goat I figured it was probably Gaza/Palestine/Islam related

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    14 hours ago

    Racist magazine spends decades screaming slurs and inciting race hatred. Racist magazine gets attacked by people from the group they were inciting race hatred against. Libs expect me to care. Very strange situation.

    • archomrade [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      9 hours ago

      Just out of curiosity:

      When you asked that question, did you really not know? And the followup: was goat's an acceptable explanation?

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      12 hours ago

      the notion that Gazans are being genocided as retribution for their "universal religious fundamentalism" is fucking asinine, not least because the genocidaires are engaged in their own explicitly ethnotheocratic state project

      • archomrade [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        11 hours ago

        I definitely misread their statement, but the reality of what they are saying is so much more depraved than what I assumed that I am completely overcome with disgust.

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  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    13 hours ago

    goat is terrible, I remember calling them out when the MeanwhileOnGrad profile picture was a racist Xi/Winnie the Pooh caricature and they had endless apologism. We should never refederate with sh.itjust.works.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      11 hours ago

      If .world is just a reddit clone .works is the refugees from all the shitty banned subs.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        11 hours ago

        Anytime somebody says that there's never an excuse for violence you should just immeidatly say "give me your wallet or ill kick your ass" and then just keep saying that and calling them a hypocrite if they don't just give it to you.

        "There's never an excuse for violence" is just something that sounds good to people who have never thought about anything.

      • archomrade [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        12 hours ago

        I honestly don't think he sees how absurd that insistence is, or else is extremely mindful of his own language to avoid contradicting his statements of non-violence.

        He clearly has no problem with violence against Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran/Russia/China/anyOtherWesternBoogyman, but he's careful never to outright say it. Whenever he gets close he deflects by whatabouting Iran or Russia or China.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    11 hours ago

    If they hate Muslims, assume they’re all terrorists and want to ethnically cleanse them. Then they’re not free speech. Simple as.

    Speaking of which, if Muslims really are all that bad. Why do you celebrate when Christians act just as bad as you claim Muslims are?

  • nothx [he/him]
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    12 hours ago

    Of all the things to dislike the french over, their fries are not one of them... Or their toast.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    14 hours ago

    I feel less bad about the sweeping generalizations I made about the french in my rant in the mod matrix channel the other day now.

    • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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      7 hours ago

      I had a struggle session with my partner about why I seem to have such a bias against the French as that sort of bias is out of character for me and I couldn't figure it out.

      Eventually I realized it's the colonialism and hateful xenophobia against Muslims / anyone less than lily white. When I explained that was why, they apologized and became a hater with mW.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      14 hours ago

      The French "auteurs" are categorically not okay either. libertarian-alert