• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    To paraphrase Nixon:

    "When you're a company, it's not illegal."

    To paraphrase Trump:

    "When you're a company, they just let you do it."

    • doctortran@lemm.ee
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      29 days ago

      Find me any charitable, non-profit, or community organization that wouldn't call the cops if someone was breaking into their networking closet to install data harvesting hardware.

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        • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
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          28 days ago

          You're not disproving their point, though.

          If anything, if the opposition is like this, it makes them seem all the more credible...

          • UlyssesT
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  • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    29 days ago

    Who writes the laws? There's your answer.

    I'm curious why https://www.falconfinance.ae/ cares about this though.

    The hell they are selling? https://www.falconfinance.ae/falcon-securities/

    • TheOakTree@lemm.ee
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      29 days ago

      I did some digging. It's a parody finance website that makes it seem like you can invest in falcons and make a blockchain (flockchain) with them. Dig a little further, go to the linked forum, and you'll see it's just a community of people shitposting (mostly).

  • EmbarrassedDrum@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    and in due time, we'll hack OpenAI and get the sources from the chat module..

    I've seen a few glitches before that made ChatGPT just drop entire articles in varying languages.

    • ddplf@szmer.info
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      29 days ago

      Wait, since when it had not been? Or are you telling me that vastly the fastest growing platform in history with multiple payment gates (subscriptions, pay per token, licensing etc.) was not profitable for some reason?

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
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        29 days ago

        Not sure if you are joking but... it does not appear to be making anywhere near the amount of money that has been invested in it.

        It costs a stupendous amount of money to develop the models, to train them, to rent out or just buy the hardware needed to do this, to pay for the electrical power to do this.

        • ddplf@szmer.info
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          29 days ago

          Not joking, I'm just underinformed

          Now that I think of it, yeah, it makes absolute sense. It's not a stable income OpenAI is based on, but rather the endless wagons of money from hyped up sponsors. Very much unsustainable.

        • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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          29 days ago

          The cost is to the whole world, because they consume enormous amounts of energy and produce essentially nothing. Like bitcoin miners.

          • TheDoctor [they/them]
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            29 days ago

            Worse than Bitcoin miners, AI seems to have the wholethroated support of capital (rather than a single faction), who see it as the next big form of automation

      • facow [he/him, any]
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        29 days ago

        Or are you telling me that vastly the fastest growing platform in history with multiple payment gates (subscriptions, pay per token, licensing etc.) was not profitable

        Are you not aware that 99 times out of 100 if you see a tech company rapidly growing it's completely unprofitable and not even attempting to be profitable yet? It's called blitzscaling and is pretty clearly what openai is attempting. Like if you see a tech company quickly growing you should be assuming it's unprofitable until proven otherwise not the opposite lol.

  • doctortran@lemm.ee
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    29 days ago

    Can we be honest about this, please?

    Aaron Swartz went into a secure networking closet and left a computer there to covertly pull data from the server over many days without permission from anyone, which is absolutely not the same thing as scraping public data from the internet.

    He was a hero that didn't deserve what happened, but it's patently dishonest to ignore that he was effectively breaking and entering, plus installing a data harvesting device in the server room, which any organization in the world would rightfully identity as hostile behavior. Even your local library would call the cops if you tried to do that.

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      29 days ago

      You left out the part where, instead of telling him to knock it off as soon as they learned about it and disciplining him internally as a student, the school contacted law enforcement and allowed him to continue doing it so they could prosecute him harder make an example out of him. You’d think if he was as big of a threat as you’re implying, they would stop what he was doing ASAP. And if you’re going to be pedantic about leaving out details, maybe tell the whole thing. Maybe it’s not “honest” enough if we haven’t posted the full text of a documentary in a comment. That’s clearly your call.

    • UlyssesT
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      18 days ago

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    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
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      28 days ago

      Wao, it's not often we get to see someone posting a comment so full of shit while making sure to obscure many facts to see if it sticks.

      "Can we be honest"? Apparently you cannot.

    • Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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      28 days ago

      Why don't you speak what you truly believe instead of copy-pasting the same gaslighting everywhere? We already made you, anyway.

  • electricprism@lemmy.ml
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    28 days ago

    Remember what you learned in school: Working as a team to solve a test or problem is unacceptable!!! Unless you are a company town.