It’s a week before the election. Quit browbeating me and go talk to some people who have a chance of listening to you. Or are you actually just a cynical sophist who likes winning arguments more than you do “saving democracy”?
I feel bad, because I've been meaning to do phone banking for one of my orgs, but there's only so much energy and time for me lately.
They want maximum results for minimum effort, then whine when they don't get everything handed to them. They're the DarksydePhils of electoralism.
Liberals are like this on all issues. Ask them about Ukraine and they are baying for blood. Suggest they go do their part since ukrainians are being forcibly conscripted and suddenly it's all... Oh uhm actually it's not up to me and it's more a systemic thing.
Point out they're wasting their time arguing with us, if their stated purpose is to get more voters and suddenly it's crickets.Every dollar you don't donate to Harris is a dollar donated to Trump, every hour you don't spend volunteering for Harris is an hour spent volunteering for Trump, etc etc
If liberals did any organizing I wouldn't have to bang on my sign!
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Banging the sign again...
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Liberals are outnumbered 2-to-1 by non-voters. 50% of the electorate does not vote, so if they aren't doorknocking they are not serious.
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Here's a bitter pill for us... why aren't WE knocking on those non-voter doors? No one else is and we actually have something real to say to them.
You are absolutely correct. There is opportunity to organize where everybody else is not. In fact both
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have the same idea.that workers’ candidates are nominated everywhere in opposition to bourgeois-democratic candidates. As far as possible they should be League members and their election should be pursued by all possible means. Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled.
No, no, you see, if we just exterminate the entire X ethnic group we'll pick up exactly three Klansmen in Topeka and win everything forever!
If liberals want Kamala to win so bad they should go [redacted] [in roblox] allegedly all the fascists they think are posed to destroy their democracy. and yet...
Calling people is scary - much easier to post (I say this as someone who spends several hours on random video chat networks daily). I was baked when the last time a Dem phone banker called me and I kind of got into it with them. but I had to stop because I got the sense that if I kept reiterating the criminality of US empire more verbosely I might've made them cry. I assume they just have better data nowadays because I've only gotten texts from one random PAC this time around.
