seems like we only have ~10 years to deal with climate change. also seems like joe biden is gonna get the nom. What the fuck do we do in these next few years given that the dems are not remotely interested in dealing with climate change in any real way?

      • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Half my state just burned to the fucking ground and we're barely at 1.1C.

        The situation is already catastrophic. The question is now whether we're going to have industrial civilization at all past 2100.

        The fact that the average person doesn't know/care about this is not an indication that the problem is overblown.

        Far fucking from it.

          • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            We just had two fires bigger than any in state history simultaneously.

            The average burned acreage the past decade has matched the maximum in 1980.

            As far as I'm concerned, what you're describing is a distinction without a difference.

            If you pour gasoline onto a fire, can you reasonably say that because you can't "correlate" that action with the damage the fire ended up causing, they aren't related? If you donate a billion dollars to ISIS, can you honestly say "I did nothing wrong because you can't prove my money was used to kill people?" (This is an especially relevant example because we know climate instability will directly cause wars, arguably already has.)

            So this shit is just an attempt to trick your own brain. It is not a complicated issue. It's a basic systemic problem.

            We are, slowly but surely, sucking all the fucking oxygen out of the room. We are destroying our capacity to maintain current human populations and advanced civilizations.

            Those are the fucking stakes, bar none. There is no doubt about this.

            I don't need to navel gaze about whether this or that event is "technically" related because the problem isn't an increase in isolated, individual events.

            It's a rising fucking tide that will drown us all. Literally, in some cases.