Her dad is Jewish, mom isn't, and parents are divorced. The extent of her religion is "we said the prayers on hannukkah." Last night she heard about some right wingers she's barely related to say that Jewish people go to hell. This then led to my gf saying that "the left" also does the same thing.

Is this what the kids are calling "the ick"?

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    9 days ago

    Jewish people don't even believe in hell, so what's her deal?

    Make sure to tell her that loudly and repeatedly

    Actually, don't do that, that would be pretty mean

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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      9 days ago

      i think it's part of a liberal white womans desire to have something interesting about them? She's really been using her Jewish heritage more than ever now that Israel is murdering children. She's also very into "witchy things" so yea

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        9 days ago

        She's really been using her Jewish heritage more than ever now that Israel is murdering children.

        This seems very concerning.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        9 days ago

        I was in a remarkably similar situation during one of Israel's offensives in the 2010s. The sense of ethnic identity, in the absence of a commitment to internationalism, can be overwhelming. You might be able to salvage this but she needs to have enough conversations with anti-Zionist Jews.

        It can't just come from you. She must talk to a Jew. Better not one but a few. Simply none else will do.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        9 days ago

        If anything, ask her who on the left is saying she's going to hell?

        Because I assume you aren't telling her that

      • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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        9 days ago

        I had the opposite thing where the second the horrors started ramping up again (also in 2021) I felt like I needed to do my part in promoting a social/cultural 'out' from Zionism for Jews in my community who've been raised on it. Like, try to help further mainstream a Judaism that regards Zionism as fundamentally disgusting, so other conscientious Jews can pull the escape hatch more easily. The indoctrination runs deep and the rot even deeper in my experience, entire Jewish organizations that present otherwise innocuously are built primarily to promote and rationalize the existence of Israel. Shit sucks and it suckers in libs hard because it's so baked into the institutions. I've personally helped steward along dozens of people in that process, especially at my former summer camp, and one of those people is very actively helping in facilitating organization on the ground for Palestine, which is very much an honor.

        I want to further embrace my own Jewish heritage in order to promote to other Jews that it's fine to be Jewish whilst disavowing this Hitlerian statecraft project that leeches onto Jewish identity. There's a chunk of other non-religious Jews want to further embrace theirs to snuff out uncomfortable feelings they refuse to reckon with, which I reckon she kinda falls into from what you are saying. we-are-not-the-same

      • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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        9 days ago

        Why on earth are you dating white libs?

        I guess you could emphasize the 'I'm dating a hot witch' thing and push her that way, but, like, genocide bad, please dont ruin witchy stuff, and there are other girls out there who dont support genicide.

        Edit: some even have houses and space for cats

        • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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          9 days ago

          let's be real, if we call kept just waiting for that magical leftist/commie to come along, we'd be waiting a while. i've dated quite a few women, they were probably more lib than left usually.

          • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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            9 days ago

            All the women I've dated were pretty far left. Maybe you find libs because you look in lib spaces (and lib apps). Pretty sure all of them have cats, too.

            Then again; I spend an unhealthy amount of time alone.

          • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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            8 days ago

            Have you tried radicalizing her? It... Well it might be a little late, but the whole 'you are a human who deserves rights' thing might be appealing.

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        9 days ago

        I don't think this is restricted to white women - see the reddit-logo EDC people (I'm assuming mostly white men) who have 20 knives instead of a personality

        • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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          9 days ago

          Okay but what really is the difference between a knife and a personality?

          Because I dont think your personality can be used to prepare sushi chop ingredients for stews sacrifice a virgin murder a king or whittle a children's toy.