https://lemmy.ml/post/22540110

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        5 days ago

        So it's pretty galling but Eisenhower, Reagan (!!), Nixon (!!), and George HW Bush all pushed back against Israel in their own ways, much more than this current era of US presidents. I'd have to check the intervening Clinton era etc. but I'm pretty sure that the last time a US president decided to say no to Israel in any significant way was by George HW Bush. I guess that Mossad/Epstein kompromat dirt from running honeypots really works wonders to advance the interests of Israel (looking at you Clinton).

        Y'know what's weird though? Seems like, at least historically speaking, Republican presidents were the ones who were willing to push back on Israel. It seems my non-voter/3rd voter position was wrong, those commenters are right. It's a two-party system. Given that Biden-Harris failed to even attempt to push back on Israel in any meaningful way, it seems like I should have been advocating for a Republican vote.

        This is a position that is entirely consistent with their own internal logic btw. Blue MAGA cannot help but keep producing strategic Ls. They're gonna murder their own party's chances of ever getting reelected if they keep at it with their commitment to Pyrrhic victories.

        • fox [comrade/them]
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          5 days ago

          Fwiw kompromat is a thought terminating cliche used to imply not that someone is being blackmailed but that specifically they're co-opted by Russia for Russian interests. Liberal disinformatsya if you will

          • ReadFanon [any, any]
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            5 days ago

            Oh no shit, thanks for letting me know. Seems like that liberal in my head isn't quite dead, even after all this time.

      • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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        5 days ago

        The last president to threaten to withhold military aid was George H. W. Bush. He didn't--because Israel gave in to demands for a bit.