https://lemmy.ml/post/22540110

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        So it's pretty galling but Eisenhower, Reagan (!!), Nixon (!!), and George HW Bush all pushed back against Israel in their own ways, much more than this current era of US presidents. I'd have to check the intervening Clinton era etc. but I'm pretty sure that the last time a US president decided to say no to Israel in any significant way was by George HW Bush. I guess that Mossad/Epstein kompromat dirt from running honeypots really works wonders to advance the interests of Israel (looking at you Clinton).

        Y'know what's weird though? Seems like, at least historically speaking, Republican presidents were the ones who were willing to push back on Israel. It seems my non-voter/3rd voter position was wrong, those commenters are right. It's a two-party system. Given that Biden-Harris failed to even attempt to push back on Israel in any meaningful way, it seems like I should have been advocating for a Republican vote.

        This is a position that is entirely consistent with their own internal logic btw. Blue MAGA cannot help but keep producing strategic Ls. They're gonna murder their own party's chances of ever getting reelected if they keep at it with their commitment to Pyrrhic victories.

        • fox [comrade/them]
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          1 month ago

          Fwiw kompromat is a thought terminating cliche used to imply not that someone is being blackmailed but that specifically they're co-opted by Russia for Russian interests. Liberal disinformatsya if you will

          • ReadFanon [any, any]
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            1 month ago

            Oh no shit, thanks for letting me know. Seems like that liberal in my head isn't quite dead, even after all this time.

          • heggs_bayer
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            1 month ago

            When someone is co-opted by US interests, it's kkkompromat.

      • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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        1 month ago

        The last president to threaten to withhold military aid was George H. W. Bush. He didn't--because Israel gave in to demands for a bit.

  • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Oh yeah because there were restrictions before right? reddit-logo -lite losers as always showing their real genocidal skins

    • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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      1 month ago

      They didn't send 2000 lb bombs to be dropped on civilians and aid workers, they just sent thousands of 500 lb bombs instead smuglord

    • GoodGuyWithACat [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Biden gave "restrictions" which Pissraelis ignored and then the US continued to support them unconditionally. These liberals literally only care about words, that's why they hate Donald Trump. He says mean things and makes the US look bad. They want the US to look good. They have no material understanding of the world, only ideological.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Every time I question if Hexbear is too quick to attack over ideological purity testing, I get on my Lemmy.ml account and look at their feed. Not having standards or a street trial culture is so much worse. Why would anyone want to spend time on a website where their feed is a bunch of demons calling for a holocaust? The person offering houseplant advice in one thread wants to mass murder children in another thread. You're expected to seriously engage with someone saying something so antisocial that they would be beaten to death if they said it in a bar, and if you dare offend them then you're a dirty rulebreaker.

    If you don't have fash-bash, you immediately get i-am-adolf-hitler.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      I self crit myself pretty often about being too hostile and aggressive when it comes to interacting with libs

      Then I go interact with libs and I wish I could set them on fire

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        -Feel bad about maybe being too mean to liberals

        -Interact with pigmask-off liberalspigmask-off

        -agony-limitlesshitler-detectorsmug-aura-mocks-mewere-gonna-kill-you

        -Feel bad about maybe being too mean to liberals

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      The person offering houseplant advice in one thread wants to mass murder children in another thread.

      When we did the pronoun purges, we lost the most active person in our gardening community and gardening was dead for a while. Thought this was pretty on the nose lol

  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    anakin-padme-1 "vote for the lesser evil"
    anakin-padme-2 so you agree they are evil, right?
    anakin-padme-3
    anakin-padme-4 you do agree that they are evil, right?

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    My favourite version of this is when the libs got smug about Israeli ministers calling the West Bank part of Judea and Samaria and for further settlements there. Apparently they would never dare say that if Kamala got elected even though they did that weekly and we had Bill Clinton going up and saying that Judea and Samaria are ancestral Jewish land and justifying killing Palestinian civilians on her fucking campaign.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    Desperate for the first opportunity to wash their hands of the genocide they support. Desperate to believe that hypothetical Trump would be somehow worse than the real desolation they voted for and lost. Now they want to skin the anti-war left they spent a year condescending to and gaslighting, now they want to wear our faces and be praised for their conscientiousness. There is no creature in all the mud and shit on Earth so loathsome as these smug, callous fairweather nazis.

    I have no doubt that they'll try to put the mask on again at some point in the future when it suits them for 5 seconds. When that happens, they'll talk down to everyone else for not being fooled

  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?

    Listen North American fucking dumbasses, go fuck back off to your suburban hellhole and stop fucking meddling shit on other continents, for FAHKS SAKE Keep eating your McD and Tim Hortons (including the Canadian satrapy here) and stop trying to be the world police, especially with the moral grandstanding, SINCE YOU LITERALLY ARE FUNDING A GENOCIDE RIGHT NOW

    (not gonna register to lemmy world for this)

  • iByteABit [comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    This is a prime example of why this comm can't be replaced with c/counterpropaganda, these cryptofascists don't deserve a serious answer, they deserve to be ridiculed and reminded that they have been supporting everything that is happening in Gaza from the beginning and still do. They don't give a shit about Palestinians, if they did they would know that there were never any "military restrictions" in place, unless by military restrictions you mean Israel not dropping actual nukes.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      The only way military restrictions will be put in place is if there is a "humanitarian intervention" into Israel.

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    A thing to notice is that none of them are even pretending that they were holding their nose to vote despite the genocide. There was zero conflict in their hearts.

  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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    1 month ago

    Biden is in office for two more months and could order a complete halt right now with no consequences, the election is over, they can stop "pretending" to cater to the right wing for votes.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    What are they mad about here? Trump is just carrying out the Biden/Harris policy by ensuring Israel can defend itself from Palestinian hospitals and children.

  • Feline
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    1 month ago

    .world libs can't wait to see us in camps

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      Libs once we overpower the guards, steal their weapons and begin liberating the camps!: wojak-nooo Nooo, there was a vote! There was a vote!

      • miz [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        "breaking out of the camps? how can you be so uncivil??"