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  • grylarski [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    No, no WTO pressure scaring countries to open up wasn't a thing at all

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah and now you see so called leftists act like the WTO shit is good even on this forum. "Ohhh noo, you're an evil neolib for checks notes not wanting long existing jobs to flee every country on earth only to relocate into the largest economies of China and the United States."

      Globalization has been an unmitigated disaster, countries need to develop independently from each other such that they can be nominally self sufficient.

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Lord help me, I know nothing of the WTO. Can you provide some info on it?

        I would have thought that globalization would be a good thing under a socialist form of production. The way I see it, it would be easier to establish the most productive places to use labor to make available each resource and then move it around the world than it would be to have each place synthesize each resource. For example, if Japan is not iron rich, they could call on China to give them enough iron - not in exchange, but just because they need it. On the inverse, if China were low on products of Japanese expertise and labor - perhaps sophisticated medical devices (idk), they could call upon Japan to supply them. You wouldn't need every country to have iron or ventilator production. Therefore, you would reduce redundancy in production. And this would further the world into the endgame where you no longer need boarders or states because you have a counsel of laborers organizing world production. Also, if all the infrastructure and workflows already exist under capitalism and you seize the means, you wouldn't just burn down all the transport ships, databases, and docks, would you?

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          The WTO exists to create a standard set of rules various countries trade goods on and protects a set of rules around foreign direct investment and the physical and intellectual property that acquires. It aims to reduce tariffs, but doesn't eliminate them like a free trade deal does.

          No, if global socialism started tomorrow you probably wouldn't destroy these supply chains, but in a capitalist system this lack of redundancy hurts a nation's ability to reach full quality employment. But because the contemporary world order maintains big parts of the broader nation state institution, nation's can't really depend on one another and the workers cannot depend on their own countries.

          • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Absolutely. Shit like arbitrage for the cheapest labor for packaging is garbage and having three or four stops for foodstuffs is killing the environment.

            Just found out about the WTO. that shit sucks

            • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Yup, I wish I could realize as a small child living in nyc that 9/11 was really about saying fuck free trade.

              Western chuds <~> the global left <~> islamist terrorist all agree on saying fuck free trade and the new world order.