• bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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    1 month ago

    My immediate urge is to dismiss it, but I guess that’s not a refutation.

    I’m also not a huge fan of “would you be happy with native Americans blowing up your home?” because it accepts the idea that every Jew in the world has an ancestral connection to the land of Israel in the same way that the actual indigenous people who were colonized do

    Idk I’m also having trouble

    • seas_surround [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      That lends too much legitimacy to Israel imo, American indigenous peoples have a much better justification for blowing up settlers' houses if they want to.

      I'm USian and I have Irish ancestry. I think that can be used much more fittingly as an analogy - all my ancestors up through my great grandparents were born in the US, but I am ethnically Irish and (for the purposes of this argument) Irish Catholic in religion; Ireland is a place where Irish history, architecture, and coinage(??) can be found all over the land. Despite having lived in the US my whole life, does this mean I have the right to call myself Irish, fly to Ireland, and kill a Protestant to take their house because it's my "native homeland"?

      It points to two parts of their argument that are open to your critique - the validity of their claims to ancient heritage and the validity of using that ancient heritage as justification for any kind of violence in the modern world.