can't speak to any experience with that, but in my area since I've joined it's been grassroots events, protests, stuff we organized, or stuff we were cooperating on.
We do be coopting lib organized shit tho 'oops your friendship huddle with police became a defund the police rally with people chanting ACAB :soviet-bashful: '
My branch/ other local branches are for sure. I'm one of the loudest people on here about left unity, I'm aggressively against infighting and trying to steal members or anything like that o7
There's no real problem as infighting has in no way prevented any sort of mass action from happening or anything close to that. It's mostly just mild annoyances and DSA types don't like that they aren't in the driver's seat.
Nah SAlt coopts BLM rally's to make it about taxing Amazon, something that everyone there already agrees on.
I still generally believe SA is the most accomplished dem centralist org in the US, but there's a lot of real criticism there. Also like other trot orgs, there's splits over tedious bullshit.
When we went to blm actions it was just to participate in solidarity or to talk to people about how fed up with the system they were and help point out contradictions as we talked, to raise consciousness not to talk about tax amazon
Well Sawant literally took over a BLM march into city hall only to turn it into a tax amazon event that featured almost exclusively white speakers. And that fuck up is now being used by the WA state supreme court (for covid related reasons) to allow her recall petition to gather signatures.
Like I definitely think SAlt is an incredibly effective organization that definitely does far more meaningful work than DSA, but they do sometimes come across as out of touch.
can't speak to any experience with that, but in my area since I've joined it's been grassroots events, protests, stuff we organized, or stuff we were cooperating on.
We do be coopting lib organized shit tho 'oops your friendship huddle with police became a defund the police rally with people chanting ACAB :soviet-bashful: '
I would like to ask you guys to be a little more careful with what you identify as "grassroots."
My branch/ other local branches are for sure. I'm one of the loudest people on here about left unity, I'm aggressively against infighting and trying to steal members or anything like that o7
You must not be from Seattle then lol
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There's no real problem as infighting has in no way prevented any sort of mass action from happening or anything close to that. It's mostly just mild annoyances and DSA types don't like that they aren't in the driver's seat.
not surprised honestly
I think it's just that Sawant works her ass off, so people are willing to always follow her lead regardless of any sort of disagreement.
Nah SAlt coopts BLM rally's to make it about taxing Amazon, something that everyone there already agrees on.
I still generally believe SA is the most accomplished dem centralist org in the US, but there's a lot of real criticism there. Also like other trot orgs, there's splits over tedious bullshit.
When we went to blm actions it was just to participate in solidarity or to talk to people about how fed up with the system they were and help point out contradictions as we talked, to raise consciousness not to talk about tax amazon
Well Sawant literally took over a BLM march into city hall only to turn it into a tax amazon event that featured almost exclusively white speakers. And that fuck up is now being used by the WA state supreme court (for covid related reasons) to allow her recall petition to gather signatures.
Like I definitely think SAlt is an incredibly effective organization that definitely does far more meaningful work than DSA, but they do sometimes come across as out of touch.
Ahh gotcha, I was just talking about locally. And I agree, I share those criticisms at large