It's pretty sparse, all things considered

    • Josephine_Spiro [she/her]
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      58 minutes ago

      Jesus is presumably a human, but no facts are directly known about him, only other people's claims. For example, Sam Witwicky and his teacher both agree that, if Jesus were in the teacher's shoes, he would give the boy a dishonestly inflated grade to trick Sam's father into buying Sam a car.

      Holy shit this is great

      Another persistent rumor is that Jesus once died and came back to life. Given this (and the fact that he has only been referred to in dialogue, never established in person), he may simply be a metaphor for Optimus Prime.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      6 hours ago

      it's written using solely information you can gather from the cartoons, as if the page author never heard of Jesus outside of the series

      New bit idea, always write pages on fan wikis as if you lived in that fictional world.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        4 hours ago

        Pretty normal for a fan wiki of a setting. They want to verisimilitude of reading "wikipedia" from that setting. The technical notes and DVD making of notes are sometimes there, but tend to get way less play than describing what a character did in an episode in the style of Wikipedia.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 hours ago

      I like how if you dig into this, it boils down to "a 10 year old RPG sourcebook said this one Gran planet was cool and space communist"

      • Frivolous_Beatnik [comrade/them, any]
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        8 hours ago

        It's funny, because that entire RPG line (the Fantasy Flight Star Wars RPG) provided a lot of good material for worldbuilding obsessed nerds - it's often the only cited material for a lot of what you would think are important concepts (like socialism). They're usually cool about the socialist, labor rights, and liberation stuff in the setting, certainly more so than cringe didney stuff that makes "anarchists wot believe in nothing" central villains.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          6 hours ago

          FFG was making a lot of great SW tabletop stuff during the 2010s. I liked the X-Wing dogfight game quite a bit. Never had an RPG group during those years, but that sounds like a dope one!

          They're usually cool about the socialist, labor rights, and liberation stuff in the setting, certainly more so than cringe didney stuff that makes "anarchists wot believe in nothing" central villains.

          That's more on the Marvel side of Disney, right? Maybe I'm too live-slug-reaction soypoint-2 whenever Saw Gererra comes on the screen to realize you're supposed to think he's "too extreme" or whatever

          • Frivolous_Beatnik [comrade/them, any]
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            6 hours ago

            Oh that's not even getting into Saw! Check out his fallen order portrayal for that "too extreme doesnt care about anything" stuff. I meant these clowns https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nihil

            The RPG system is great though, possibly my favorite all around - fun mechanics, depth for people who want to get into it, and super accessible for new players.

            Lots of resources online like https://star-wars-rpg-ffg.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_RPG_(FFG)_Wiki

                • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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                  5 hours ago

                  Andor is the best Star Wars. No other sw has had a character say “everyone is a liberal except me”

                  best star was convo

                  Luthen: Think of it. Think of Spellhaus in flames. Neither of you could do it on your own, but together-

                  Saw: Kreegyr’s a Separatist. Maya Pei’s a Neo-Republican. The Ghorman Front. The Partisan Alliance? Sectorists! Human cultists! Galaxy partitionists! They’re lost, all of them lost! Lost. What are you Luthen? I’ve never really known. What are you?

                  Luthen: I’m a coward. I’m a man who’s terrified the Empire’s power will grow beyond the point where we can do anything to stop it. I’m the one who says, “We’ll die with nothing if we don’t put aside our petty differences.”

                  Saw: Petty? I am the only one with clarity of purpose.

                  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                    edit-2
                    4 hours ago

                    god that show added a richness to Star Wars that i really didn't think was possible

                    maybe we'll have a genre in the distant FALGC future that's just like "treats of the past, but really well written and performed"

  • red_stapler [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    Star Wars is just fascist propaganda at this point, right? Like I'm not insane and the stormtrooper parades at Disney are real?

    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 hours ago

      No, its decidedly anti-fascist, however it fills the role of anti-fascist roleplay. It allows the consumer to participate in a kind of anti-fascist display and then defuse any true anti-fascist sentiment they might be harboring.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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        4 hours ago

        it's called interpassivity, I think zizek popularized the term lol and then Fisher used it too, it's a very useful categorisation

        • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 hours ago

          Chapter 2 of Capitalist Realism:

          A film like Wall-E exemplifies what Robert Pfaller has called ‘interpassivity’: the film performs our anti-capitalism for us, allowing us to continue to consume with impunity. The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does, but to conceal the fact that the operations of capital do not depend on any sort of subjectively assumed belief. It is impossible to conceive of fascism or Stalinism without propaganda – but capitalism can proceed perfectly well, in some ways better, without anyone making a case for it.

          When you are in Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge at Disney watching the Stormtroopers march past, you might also witness cast members performing acts of anti-fascist behavior. You might even be encouraged to join in. This gives your expensive trip an air of anti-fascist ideology while also signaling to you that the systems which bring you this display must also be anti-fascist as well. Stalin surly wouldn't have tolerated anti-socialist activity after all, and that's what sets our system apart from theirs. Capitalism invites you to be anti-capitalist, that's how you know it's a superior system.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        8 hours ago

        The only Special Edition change I really liked was when they added other planets reacting with celebrations to the empire’s downfall. I always see that and imagine the global south reacting that way when it’s clear the American Empire or one of its lackeys like Israel have fallen

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
      hexagon
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      10 hours ago

      George Lucas said himself the Empire was based on the American Empire with some well-placed Nazi aesthetics mixed in

      So it's not surprising Americans and corporate marketers alike would identify with space America

      • Redcuban1959 [any]
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        6 hours ago

        I think in that same interview he said he really liked Soviet movies, and how the directors in the Soviet Union or AES, could basically film whatever they wanted as long as it didn't criticize the goverment too much and they didn't film illegal stuff. He also called Disney white slavers, and that he was inspired by a bunch of guerrila movements, but specially the Vietcong, to create the rebel alliance.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      9 hours ago

      Reenacting the Battle on Ferrix by throwing a pipe bomb into the Disneyworld stormtrooper parade