On reddit? I'm not sure it is possible. You aren't just conversing with the one person, you are fighting a crowd that are reinforcing each others views and a system of vote-based reinforcement of beliefs. You getting downvoted into oblivion by the horde on top the lib answers getting 10,000 upvotes will result in anything sensible you are saying being ignored.
What does work within reddit? Creating spaces that are likeable to people for other reasons and also happen to have this information with a critical mass of people that can maintain upvotes on content. People will stick around for the content they like and then they are exposed to the information they usually completely ignore. Seeing people the usually like reinforcing that information and views through the vote systems results in them starting to soften on it.
CTH did this fantastically. MTC and CTH2 were just channels into deeper and deeper de-libbification.
Right now the best approach I think that could be mustered is engaging in struggle in soft-left places like /r/socialism to create a dominant voice there. Then having that spread into other left communities. Places like sino and genzedong are good but they're not doing anything that is attractive to libs and they're explicitly about those topics. What you need is the place to be about a different topic and then incidentally reinforce the issue whenever the topics come up. For that you need a mass of people.
Offline outside the workplace I am shamelessly communist, shamelessly open about my politics being guillotines in hyde park, shamelessly critical of anyone that believes 24 witness accounts from criminals and dissidents with zero other tangible evidence that doesn't typically get debunked in under a week. I turn on the heat and critically attack people for believing that nonsense while openly recognising that iraq and every other war for the last 50 years was a lie. I see very little value in hiding who we are or what we believe. What we believe will eventually be proven right and their reaction when it happens will be "the communist told us this", I would rather have an immediate negative interaction for the eventual reflection the individual will have than the underhanded potential of a victory in the short term by coding my messaging. People don't need to be subtle-ey moved, they need to have revelatory changes inside their head that click and those revelations need to come from knowing that the information came from a socialist. I suspect this is probably easier in my country than it is in yours but I can't say for certain as I have no experience of the advanced hostility you might receive by being openly red over there. I hide absolutely nothing.
Inside the workplace I'm more subtle and focus not on changing anyone's views but on moving groups of people towards unionising. The politics themselves are irrelevant there, instead it's all about economic interests and building class consciousness. I avoid open politics in the workplace entirely because I don't want management sniffing out the fact I don't care one jot about the job and am only interested in the company to try and organise their workers.
On reddit? I'm not sure it is possible. You aren't just conversing with the one person, you are fighting a crowd that are reinforcing each others views and a system of vote-based reinforcement of beliefs. You getting downvoted into oblivion by the horde on top the lib answers getting 10,000 upvotes will result in anything sensible you are saying being ignored.
What does work within reddit? Creating spaces that are likeable to people for other reasons and also happen to have this information with a critical mass of people that can maintain upvotes on content. People will stick around for the content they like and then they are exposed to the information they usually completely ignore. Seeing people the usually like reinforcing that information and views through the vote systems results in them starting to soften on it.
CTH did this fantastically. MTC and CTH2 were just channels into deeper and deeper de-libbification.
Right now the best approach I think that could be mustered is engaging in struggle in soft-left places like /r/socialism to create a dominant voice there. Then having that spread into other left communities. Places like sino and genzedong are good but they're not doing anything that is attractive to libs and they're explicitly about those topics. What you need is the place to be about a different topic and then incidentally reinforce the issue whenever the topics come up. For that you need a mass of people.
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Offline outside the workplace I am shamelessly communist, shamelessly open about my politics being guillotines in hyde park, shamelessly critical of anyone that believes 24 witness accounts from criminals and dissidents with zero other tangible evidence that doesn't typically get debunked in under a week. I turn on the heat and critically attack people for believing that nonsense while openly recognising that iraq and every other war for the last 50 years was a lie. I see very little value in hiding who we are or what we believe. What we believe will eventually be proven right and their reaction when it happens will be "the communist told us this", I would rather have an immediate negative interaction for the eventual reflection the individual will have than the underhanded potential of a victory in the short term by coding my messaging. People don't need to be subtle-ey moved, they need to have revelatory changes inside their head that click and those revelations need to come from knowing that the information came from a socialist. I suspect this is probably easier in my country than it is in yours but I can't say for certain as I have no experience of the advanced hostility you might receive by being openly red over there. I hide absolutely nothing.
Inside the workplace I'm more subtle and focus not on changing anyone's views but on moving groups of people towards unionising. The politics themselves are irrelevant there, instead it's all about economic interests and building class consciousness. I avoid open politics in the workplace entirely because I don't want management sniffing out the fact I don't care one jot about the job and am only interested in the company to try and organise their workers.