The real question is, how do you raise your kids so they don't turn into the next Pete Buttigieg?

  • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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    4 days ago

    imagine getting owned by your kid's fundamental questions about the physical world and society, like damn should have read some books dummy

    skill issue

    • pr0kch0p [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 days ago

      Wearily explaining, again, to a three year old that while the regimentation of time is an artifact of the development of the capitalist mode of production and the requirements of wage labor it's still naptime and they still have to lay down

  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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    4 days ago

    how do you raise your kids so they don't turn into the next Pete Buttigieg?

    Can’t speak for Buttigieg, but for a start, don’t be an obnoxious leftist.

    I have met so many people in leftist circles over the past 30 years of my life as a leftist that are so arrogant, stubborn and obnoxious that I’m not surprised at all why infighting is so common among the left. Usually people who are obsessed with politics are kinda like that regardless of their political orientation, and they wonder why normal people stopped inviting them to parties. But in their minds, it only vindicated their superiority as someone who have read this or that political theory and can see the world better than anyone else! No one can understand me, you see.

    And that’s people I’ve met in real life (used to be deep in organizing in a previous life until I burned out), and terminally online leftists are ten times worse than that lol.

    Instead, be a good role model. Don’t even bring up politics at all. Let your kids discover that their cool mom/dad reads Marx. If they’re curious about it and have trust in their parent to give good guidance in matters they don’t understand yet, they’ll ask you about it.

    • pr0kch0p [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 days ago

      I'm not shy at home about my political beliefs, I just find it much more useful to work with my kid on building a strong relationship than to browbeat her with the difference between labor and socially productive labor if she's taking too long to get out of bed, say.

      I burned out on organizing a long time ago too but the same principles that got any org I was involved with any wins seem to work pretty well at home too. Maybe I effortpost about it sometime.

    • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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      3 days ago

      My mom gave me a bunch of communist medals she had gotten from her party and didn't want anymore so I got to use them on my clothes. I was blinged out with lenin and che on my backpack. Worked pretty well.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          3 days ago

          There're different levels. Sure, maybe eating a potato chip is political, but it's not the same level of political as telling your child how to conduct themselves.

          • pr0kch0p [she/her]
            hexagon
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            3 days ago

            The way families are constructed is political. That I have effectively absolute authority over my children, however I choose to use that power, is absolutely political. Marginalized people live under the threat of having their children stolen from them because they lack the social capital to avoid getting ensnared in the family regulation system. That children have such limited rights to begin with is political. The power relations that exist between a parent and a child, and the structural context those relations exist in, is very much political.

              • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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                3 days ago

                Go to bed because you're tired and I know you don't feel tired but remember when you didn't realise you were hungry until you ate? it's like that and also there's not any fun stuff to do today anymore, I am also going to bed soon. The sooner you go to sleep the sooner it'll be tomorrow and the sooner we can go out to play and have fun. Also I love our bedtimes where I get to read you your night-time story and I've really been looking forward to it, so can we please go to bed so I can read you the goodnight story?

                • pr0kch0p [she/her]
                  hexagon
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                  3 days ago

                  The rules-lawyering 4 year old in me has no genuine objections to this, guess it's bedtime!

                  • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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                    3 days ago

                    Yeah I know you don't feel like you're tired and I get it, but this is one of those times where I have to pull out the boring "adult card" and say that we usually go to bed around this time and that's because if we don't we'll be tired tomorrow. Then we'll just be really cranky and we'll end up fighting and I don't want to fight you, I'd rather have fun. Do you want to be cranky and fight?

                    • pr0kch0p [she/her]
                      hexagon
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                      3 days ago

                      Alright I will "go" to "bed" but I'll make sure you're fully aware of my displeasure with the situation the whole time. (will actually get really into, then fall asleep during the bedtime story)

  • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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    3 days ago

    This but unironically. I have exhausted so many kindergarteners. They end up saying they don't want to know anyway and then I can hit them with trans-uno "Why?" trollface And if they don't like it then they shouldn't have asked someone with AuDHD a question relating to one of their special interests. Stupid toddlers.

    except when it's about physics or space stuff I don't find that interesting so I don't know it

  • TheDrink [he/him]
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    4 days ago

    I love going a layer deeper over and over until I'm like "because a star exploded and deposited heavy elements into a massive disk, which slowly formed into planets.

      • Wheaties [she/her]
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        4 days ago

        Gravity and time select for stable patterns in the configuration of matter.

          • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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            3 days ago

            because unstable patterns break apart when met with random and wild phenomena. In a universe full of so much chaos, stable patterns are the only patterns that don't break apart.

            why?

            because their cohesion is stronger than the forces trying to break them apart

            why?

            these patterns build upon themselves and create a collection of energy that works together that is more than chaos can muster

            why?

            because chaotic energy isn't going to be cohesive and collect enough force to beat a stable pattern

            why?

            because if chaotic energy were so cohesive and structures, it would be a stable pattern and thus, not chaotic. Chaos, is by definition, an unstable pattern

            why?

            because it is an axiomatic definition of chaos

            why?

            because if we are to talk about this subject, we need definitions to work with

            why?

            because the amount of information being passed from me to you would be negligible unless we can use a common language

            why?

            because without common words, you wouldn't be able to understand anything I'm trying to say

            why?

            because information needs to be encoded before it can transfer from my brain to yours

            why?

            because only I am able to see into my internal consciousness

            why?

            because consciousness, as it is conventionally understood, is a solo venture

            why?

            because a star exploded and deposited heavy elements into a massive disk, which slowly formed into planets.

          • Wheaties [she/her]
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            4 days ago

            That last, eternal "why?" that's where God goes. Now shut up, luv, i'm trying to watch the telly