• JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]
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    7 days ago
    CW: SA

    What they really believe, if you boil it down, is that consensual sex is unmasculine/"gay".

    That's also why you see these types talk/joke about committing sexual violence against men but don't see themselves as "gay." For this fascist masculinity, the question is whether a relationship is based around domination, property and violence, or around mutual affection and respect. They see the later as effeminate/degen/"gay".

    • radio_free_asgarthr [he/him, comrade/them]
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      7 days ago

      I think it really just comes down to a form of misogyny that women are sex objects and nothing else. Therefore, all companionship and friendship should be found with other men.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      7 days ago

      I don't think Fuentes and Tate believe in anything so coherent. They're grifters who like attention and money first and foremost.

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    7 days ago

    Yeah let me just go out of my way to spend the rest of my life with someone i don't actually care about. That's a sane way of doing things.

    Tate's whole thing is weird. You've got the conspicuous consumption, but once you get past the surface it just ends up being another set of philosophies or whatever where people aren't actually allowed to enjoy anything.

    • blight [he/him]
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      7 days ago

      You’re reading way too much into it. He’s a human trafficker and his beliefs are justifications for that

    • regul [any]
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      7 days ago

      They dropped the charges. He got released.

      • JustSo [she/her, any]
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        7 days ago

        That's a shame I guess we'll just have to execute him on livestream.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    7 days ago

    These scumbags make their whole identity "conquering" women only to explicitly say that you can't love them or be enthusiastic about them? This doesn't even make any sense! What are you doing!

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      7 days ago

      I imagine these types considering the UFC pop off and the drunken mid-herd migration campfire chuckle to be the only expressions of joy permissable. I have a whole soapbox about how UFC personalities run the gambit but often use the money to go be family guys.

      Surely it's some combination of being bullied (into gender expression), exploited labor, and unrequited love that leaves raw psychological wounds these people prey on. Otherwise why bother? If not for this, you wouldn't be online enough to know who Tate is (though children get his content so who knows).

      It's French to me that you'd choose this over the conventional practice that a therapist would give you for romantic connection. "You should do what you mean to do and go searching for people who resonate with it." The manosohere has some kind of false stranglehold on personal grooming and clarified communication (as perverse and estranged from the soul as it may be) in pursuit of being attractive. I wish the person who invented the phrase "just be yourself" a very install league of legends.

      If you gave me a choice of walking on eggshells around somebody who I knew how to exploit and a partner who shared my vision of the future (Viktor from Arcane) then it's a frame 1 choice.

  • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 days ago

    Having a day trip with a friend can quickly become a headache if you aren't on the same page, imagine marrying someone you don't even like.