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  • deadtoddler420 [any]
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    4 years ago

    I think comparing how Trump won as an outsider and how Bernie failed to do so, there's a big difference: Obama. See Trump could critique the shit out of the RNC, cause like they didn't have a president for 8 years and Bush isn't really well liked. You gotta go all the way back to Reagan to find a really beloved Republican president. But the last Democrat was Obama, who is still wildly popular. So you can either go scorched earth and risk alienating a fairly large chunk who still really, really like Obama or you can not and fail to seem much like an outsider. And since Biden's whole campaign is basically "you'll kinda have Obama again", people who may like Bernie more but just want a Democrat to win and like Obama don't end up caring enough to vote in a primary. But just because we know his strategy failed, I don't necessarily know that the other strategy would have worked out. I think his problem differs heavily from 2016 in that Biden was a much tougher opponent due to how strongly linked to Obama he was, and I think that link would always be almost undefeatable.

    • LatheOfLeavenedBread [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Trump also had billionaire patrons and donors independent of the other candidates. The Mercers and others spent a lot of money and hired a lot of the people that got Trump through. All of gamergate was done by people working for Robert Mercer. Bernie simply didn't have this reserve of money giving him regular shots in the arm. And yes, of course, Obama stepping (stomping?) on the scales for Bernie made all the difference.