Given all states including and north of New York & New Jersey would split off from the USA and form the "North East Union".

Would they be able to hold their own against and without the rest of the USA?

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    19 hours ago
    • You'd have access to the New York harbor (and the whole Hudson) as well as the Erie canal. The northeast basically sits on the largest modern trade route for the midwest and Canada.
    • You'd probably annex Pennsylvania as a buffer state
    • Due to NE train infrastructure you can take DC as a large fortification and resupply. At this point you control the vast majority of Atlantic infrastructure.
    • Large population to draw from.
    • Invasions from the South and West stymied by the Appalachians and Great Lakes.

    That said, Grand Chicago Trade Union is the biggest wildcard. You control one of their access to the Atlantic via the Erie Canal and Hudson, so you two will be hot and heavy diplomatically over access and costs. They are also very wealthy in goods, control vast sparsely populated territory, and their Trade-Electors are highly independent. Mitigating factor is they are constantly at war with the neo-confederate warlords along the Mississippi as well as rivals with the Republic of Texas following the collapse of the Louisiana Territories.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    19 hours ago

    I always figured that will be the region that remains controlled by the rump state USA. We’ll have the New Confederacy, the New California Imperium, and maybe something in the Midwest idk what goes on there, and then the northeast will keep calling itself the United States of America

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      19 hours ago

      Virginia will be in a real weird zone, NOVA will never separate from Washington and is fully a part of the northeast, but the mountainous areas in the southwest are solidly part of the south and there’s no clear dividing line between VA and NC