Cognito-hazard, of course, but it's fascinating looking at how badly they fumbled the bag, how willing they are to identify their own flaws and failures, and how they basically knew that Kamala Harris wasn't going to get elected despite miking people for one and a half billion dollars only to piss it up the wall. Oh but it's Trump's super PACs who were colluding illegally that was the real cause for Harris' loss and they were under extremely difficult circumstances because Biden chose to pull out at the last minute, as if there wasn't a long series of internal decisions that led them directly to this situation 🙄

They are shocked that a presidential campaign for a clown who attempted a coup, who is a convicted felon, who has Hitler sympathies was successful but there's an abject lack of introspection about how they could lose against that campaign.

The entitlement is remarkable as well. They expected voters to come to them, to go to traditional media to become grateful recipients of DNC messaging, and they couldn't be fucked pursuing Joe Rogan and they legitimately queried whether Rogan would have brought his podcast to Harris rather than her going to him, like he is some mainstream media corporation just champing at the bit to have the privilege of attending a dem press conference.

Love how they were totally fine with throwing trans people under the bus too. What a home run, abandoning trans people and chasing the right-wing voters while alienating the left-wing voters and telling them that they need to avail themselves to DNC propaganda while surrendering their votes unconditionally. A winning strategy if there ever was one!

I only have about 20 mins left in this but do you want to guess how many times they have mentioned Palestine?

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    19 days ago

    "Fellas, is the fact that Hot Ones weren't interested in becoming a temporary arm of the DNC propaganda apparatus the real reason why Trump won?"

    Seriously. Get a fucking grip.

    There must have been plenty of grassroots podcasts and content creators who would have leapt at the chance to do a knock-off Hot Ones episode with Kamala Harris but did they pursue it? They probably could have done something entirely in-house with their budget and their media team as well. But no.

    Edit: 1:32:00
    "Are there any final lessons that you want to offer?"

    "We lost and that really sucks. We came really close and, obviously, we believed that we could pull this off."

    You literally spent the last 90 minutes blaming the fact that you only had 107 days to campaign and arguing for why it was an impossible race.

    You were as close to winning this election as you are to reality. Those ballots and that voter turnout don't lie.

    Your biggest lesson from all of this? That it sucks and that you nearly won. Just incredible.

    These people probably have six figure salaries and degrees from high-ranked universities.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      19 days ago

      These motherfuckers got those degrees and they still don't bother to read anything that would help them do their jobs.

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        19 days ago

        And it's not even about them being good at their jobs. Just a passing grade of competent would have been refreshing.

        The way they acted like any of this was a surprise, as if Biden pulling out was a practical impossibility (until the day it actually happened) when the reality is that the guy is so fucking frail it hurts me to see what they're doing to him, is baffling to me. Did they not consider that this might have been on the cards?

        Better yet, what the fuck campaigning did they do for Biden before those dreaded 107 days? Was none of the research and campaign development transferrable? Did they really have to start from scratch on the first one of those 107 days?

        You don't have to be a detective to figure out that these goofs are a product of nepotism, being DNC yes-men, and the power of legacy admissions.

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    19 days ago

    Honestly, the interview is all over the place. Yes, Biden pulling out in July and handing a steaming pile of shit to Kamala is not ideal. But her decision to stay loyal because of the “norms” is why they are dumb and deserved to lose. There’s no political savviness to the leader of the campaign, and therefore they couldn’t differentiate themselves from the administration. Also, how dog shit is it that she’d have to worry about administration staff bringing receipts or countering her arguments if she wanted to split with the campaign.

    Zero mention of Palestine, I’m not quite finished.

    Also, whether Joe was running in 2024 or not, you all are not running the administration with an eye to winning the next 4 years? Are these people fucking idiots? Why not spend more political capital on popular progressive measures. Worse comes to worse, you lose but people get Medicare for all. Instead we get dogshit policies, a weak economy, and losing the White House, house and senate.

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      But don't you see, Kamala had zero recognition in the public eye. She was completely on the back foot; as the second most important politician in American bourgeois democracy, nobody knew who she was.

      It's the circumstances which are to blame, okay??

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    18 days ago

    My god is it satisfying to see every single commenter just absolutely dunking on this pathetic display. I don't want to watch a single microsecond of this garbage because I know it's substanceless hot air but I am loving the comments

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      18 days ago

      There's nothing really to be gained by watching this video, so the fact is that you're better off by choosing not to watch it.

      The only value in this, aside from the lucrative dunking opportunity it provides us, is that you could probably use it to peel off a disaffected dem voter if their grievances are a match for the attitudes and the "strategy" on display in this video, or if you've helped to hone someone's criticisms of the dems to this end.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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    18 days ago

    Listen to this and then immediately listen to Hasan's interview in Put These Incels to Work and you can see the pod jons are so mad lol.

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      17 days ago

      If Kamala ran with a platform that included an "Incels For Excel" office job development program we never would have ended up where we are right now.