also, has there been an actual transfer of power yet? cause uh... until the :scared-fash: are :no-fash: should maybe only have little a :hex-crab: as a treat
It is not an exception. They had to make a deliverable threat that the country would become ungovernable, or be subject to revolution, in order to get their vote. Without the strikes and the riots and the blockades and the protests, there would have been no vote.
Remember, first these motherfuckers tried to ban MAS as a party. Then they charged a lot of the leadership for dubious crimes with serious penalties. Then they repeatedly delayed the elections because of Covid (as they simultaneously cut back medical care for people struggling with Covid). Several people were martyred resisting the coup.
So no, this was not an exception. This was a struggle which ran much deeper than a vote. Allowing an election to take place was the coup government's last ditch hail mary play.
oh yeh no, i agree entirely, its not actually an exception, theres still a big chance of shit going sideways, and as was stated elsewhere, MAS won the election the previous go around as well...
Everyone involved should be at high alert. At this point though, the coup regime is in such a weak position that I don't think there is anything they can pull in the short term. They have lost the support of the US liberal media. As much as papers like New York Times and Washington Post would love to run cover for Latin American fascists, there is no way they can do it now without showing their whole ass. They are already in a pretty embarrassing position. It seems very likely that MAS will take charge of the country's institutions.
IMO the imperialist play from here is to pivot to the long game. Acts of sabotage, propaganda, driving wedges between constituent groups of the proletariat, bribing state officials. They could try another coup, sure, but such a government would be starting out with even less legitimacy then the Anez government started with. Instead, they will try to undermine the project and prove socialism to be a failure.
What about Chavez, Maduro, Morales, and Allende? All of them saw various degrees of reactionary pushback, but some reaction is inevitable. They're still examples of leftists who got into power through electoral politics (even if it wasn't only electoral politics).
the point is that in none of these instances is it, as you say, only electoral politics
obviously electoralism has its uses in creating vanguards, seizing a modicum of power with which to bankroll further change, raising awareness and solidarity and so on.
but the "exception" hasnt really occured, cause.. well.. no fascist has ever been removed solely through electoralism.
exception, meet rule.
also, has there been an actual transfer of power yet? cause uh... until the :scared-fash: are :no-fash: should maybe only have little a :hex-crab: as a treat
It is not an exception. They had to make a deliverable threat that the country would become ungovernable, or be subject to revolution, in order to get their vote. Without the strikes and the riots and the blockades and the protests, there would have been no vote.
Remember, first these motherfuckers tried to ban MAS as a party. Then they charged a lot of the leadership for dubious crimes with serious penalties. Then they repeatedly delayed the elections because of Covid (as they simultaneously cut back medical care for people struggling with Covid). Several people were martyred resisting the coup.
So no, this was not an exception. This was a struggle which ran much deeper than a vote. Allowing an election to take place was the coup government's last ditch hail mary play.
oh yeh no, i agree entirely, its not actually an exception, theres still a big chance of shit going sideways, and as was stated elsewhere, MAS won the election the previous go around as well...
so yeah. :10000-com: correct take on your part
Everyone involved should be at high alert. At this point though, the coup regime is in such a weak position that I don't think there is anything they can pull in the short term. They have lost the support of the US liberal media. As much as papers like New York Times and Washington Post would love to run cover for Latin American fascists, there is no way they can do it now without showing their whole ass. They are already in a pretty embarrassing position. It seems very likely that MAS will take charge of the country's institutions.
IMO the imperialist play from here is to pivot to the long game. Acts of sabotage, propaganda, driving wedges between constituent groups of the proletariat, bribing state officials. They could try another coup, sure, but such a government would be starting out with even less legitimacy then the Anez government started with. Instead, they will try to undermine the project and prove socialism to be a failure.
absolutely.
just looking forward to how any attempt to safeguard against that will be harped about as "fascist leftism" in the media :meow-coffee:
Someone posted this last night: https://hexbear.net/post/32515
:cat-vibing: heck yeah, good clip
What about Chavez, Maduro, Morales, and Allende? All of them saw various degrees of reactionary pushback, but some reaction is inevitable. They're still examples of leftists who got into power through electoral politics (even if it wasn't only electoral politics).
the point is that in none of these instances is it, as you say, only electoral politics
obviously electoralism has its uses in creating vanguards, seizing a modicum of power with which to bankroll further change, raising awareness and solidarity and so on.
but the "exception" hasnt really occured, cause.. well.. no fascist has ever been removed solely through electoralism.