Winning a revolution will most likely look like war. If that weren't true, we would not be where we are right now. We will need a violent force capable of defeating the combined forces of the military, the police and the right wing militias. We do not have that. That is one of several reasons why I think the anti-gun liberals have doomed us. This is obviously going to require work and planning that AFAIK is not being done, and I'm not a cop, no cops, don't tell me anything about anything that's going on

There is a secondary war we need to fight immediately. We need to be thinking, every day, about how we are going to win the propaganda war, or if you will, the info war, which is the war for your mind and the people's minds. It will start the day the election is decided. Biden will most likely win the election. The traditional sides of this war will be defenders of Biden's administration, and the right wing who will produce a vast quantity of material criticizing Biden and democrats based on things like the high unemployment rate, the stagnant economy, stagnant wages, etc. Things that most likely will be completely true, but their answers to them are wrong.

Our position, that neither democrats nor Biden are remotely good enough and they do not actually present solutions to the myriad problems facing our generation, will not be hypothetical. It will be tested and proven. We need to be the ones attacking Biden and the democrats, and the most politically clueless person in America should never be able to confuse us with the right while we do it.

We have good terrain. We are correct and our opponents are wrong and weak. Unlike with Obama, no one thinks Biden will be a transformational president. He has said repeatedly that he will not be a transformational president, which is IMHO an extremely bizarre position for a president to take in 2020. He is not popular. No one particularly trusts him. Fucking liberals were convinced that he was electable so they picked him. We lost the propaganda war while the conversation was theoretical. That era will be over.

As for the right, they are more wrong (with a few exceptions), they have no answers, but they have a powerful propaganda system and it will produce a never ending torrent of nonsense, but it will speak to people's actual situation. The uninformed masses will hear that part and assume that the right must be the team that will fight for them.

They are not. We are. We need to make that as clear as we can to as many people as possible. Nothing good can happen unless we can do so.

  • post_trains [he/him]
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    the info war

    Hold up a sec. I got a great idea for a web site.

    Edit: wtf somebody already took it and it's just some shitty site with boring conspiracies hawking MREs and boner pills

  • Not_irony [he/him]
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    We need a place like places like /r/latestagecapitalism /r/dankleft /r/boringdystopia but 100% less lib and more anti-capitalist

    We need a /c/ where we can post memes for chuds and radlibs and boomers, without getting down voted for sounding like a lib

    • Not_irony [he/him]
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      /c/leftpipe or something https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/hSAdDqnBvv.jpg

    • danisth [he/him]
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      If lemmy is able to implement federation then I think we will be in a good place to start people on the left pipeline. Right now I wouldn't push chapo.chat as a platform to my lib friends because I know it will be too abrasive to them. There needs to be a more chill general posting site where chapo.chat/c/lib_friendly_left_memes posts would occasionally show up.

      I would also like to be able to push for the more niche subreddits I visit still to migrate off of r*ddit, but I don't think most of them would want to be under the chapo.chat umbrella.

      Edit: just saw that Lemmy released v0.8.0 with federation beta, so maybe this isn't too far off.

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    One of the good things about being a Communist is that the Bourgeoise and the enemies of the people are still subject to the laws of material reality. Capitalism, by its nature, will tear itself down in the name of the cult of growth. We are on the side of the people, we are on the right side of history, we will win.

    • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Capitalism is tearing itself down, but we will only win if we fight. Capitalism seems to develop new ways to carry on every year.

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    Not gonna lie, I'm not looking forward to the new right-wing resurgence biden's presidency will trigger

    liberals won't abandon him because he'll be "The Man who beat Trump" we're caught between a rock and hard place, it's not looking good for the left folks, it's all a wash until 2026 at the earliest

    • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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      Hence the need to view Biden's election and subsequent failure as a recruitment opportunity. A lot of people will be picking sides over the next few years.

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        Can't recruit anyone if they're all at brunch, and the ones who aren't are most likely gonna fall into the right, hate to say it but with biden's victory the popular mainstream radlib "left" is discredited and by the unfair transient properties of guilt by association so are we

        We're about to lose all our radicalization funnels, we're the seed bank, the last bastion, the final keep of helms deep, now we sleep until 2024 and hope the right and the bidenites have discredited themselves in turn by then

        Our goose is cooked for four years comrade 😔

        • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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          The reason I don't believe that is I started the Obama years as a moderately conservative dumbass (I was a libertarian) begrudgingly voting Democrat because Bush was so bad. I became a baby socialist when democrats failed to improve life in this country for anyone but big banks and insurance companies. We are headed into basically the same thing again. People are going to be mad about the results.

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            Yes that's true, but all of that won't reach a critical mass until 2024 at the earliest, took 8 years of Obama for the new left to reemerge, I predict it'll take at least four with Biden since he's more conservative than even Obama, but at the end of the day that's still four years, hell of a wait

            • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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              We have a new left now. The modern left is much larger and much more anti-capitalist than the progressives were 2008. As such, maybe we can speed this process along. Quantity will do it.

              • AbolishAmerikkka [he/him]
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                There should be massive BLM protests the day after Biden’s inauguration to say “hey you fucking libs we are not going away”

  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I still don't understand wtf everyone is settling on the media narrative that Biden is guaranteed to win

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

    Biden hasn't been polling better than Clinton 2016 in battleground states at all. So what if Trump loses the popular vote by another 2 or 3 million LOL, the key is the midwest & FL/AZ... which upset pollsters last time

    https://spectator.org/bidens-big-media-malarkey-machine/

    These are all just musings & speculation, but do not discount the ability of mainstream lib media to inflate itself needlessly

  • AbolishAmerikkka [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I read all this to get to the “how” at the bottom and you forgot to put that part. Smdh!

  • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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    If we want to boost our strength, we have to gain solid footholds in the realms of criticism of Trump and Biden, which are mostly dominated by members of the opposite political party. How are we going to push our way into becoming visible critics of them?