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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Why? Hatespeech causes death and a measurably large quantity of it. Treating it with the seriousness of the consequences it creates is in fact sensible.

    This has several benefits, it prevents the politicians from using it as a weapon, since they can't actually say anything homophobic without imprisonment.

    In the longterm you do re-education instead. But this is perfectly good in the interim.

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      • silent_water [she/her]
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        Isn't hatespeech something planned before hand?

        neither is manslaughter. reduced or stayed sentences make sense but it's still best to stamp it out.

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          • silent_water [she/her]
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            all hatespeech also has the same effect: driving political minorities out of public life, building the base for fascism to grow its roots. it's the degree of harm that varies, not the kind. so the severity of the response should also vary but a socialist society should absolutely outlaw hatespeech, just as it should expropriate private property. reeducation should absolutely follow for everyone but committed fascists. bigots should be afraid to spew their bile. is it harsh? absolutely. but as someone who's personally been chased by a group of bigots screaming slurs with the obvious intent to beat me, allowing them to move openly only helps them build power and enables precisely those sorts of attacks.

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              • silent_water [she/her]
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                they can feel however they like. the important thing is that there's a threat of violence associated with continuing to be a bigot.

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                  • Kuori [she/her]
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                    it's not pleasant, but it's important to remember that they can opt out of future consequences by simply choosing to be different.

                    the targets of their hate don't have that luxury. they will always be targets.

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          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I think they are being a little unserious. Maybe they're in a mood or something. I don't think this approach would increase hatred except to the state, but you would also literally have most of society in prison, so . . .

            • silent_water [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              the more serious answer is that you suspend the sentences for minor offenders and attempt to rehabilitate them. repeat offenders need to be separated from society with more intensive reeducation. but the threat needs to be there to prevent them from organizing against the state by stoking latent bigotries.

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