• barrbaric [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    Joe Rogan is one example. He was a Bernie supporter and is quite liberal, but he failed the purity tests by having a wide range of guests on his show, and then later around Covid vaccines and his criticism of "woke" so he was cast out of the progressive coalition, to that coalitions own injury in my opinion.

    Smartest liberal

    Have you perhaps considered that the distrust in our institutions was also caused by propaganda, and that in general they are run by good people who do a decent job?

    I stand corrected, an even smarter liberal

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      An aside: economists don't usually use the word 'capitalism' because it has no set definition, to the point of being meaningless.

      lmao

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        On a level plain, simple mounds look like hills; and the insipid flatness of our present bourgeoisie is to be measured by the altitude of its great intellects.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        5 days ago

        reading this caused what i hope is a fatal brain bleed

    • Sulvor [he/him, undecided]
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      6 days ago

      Have you perhaps considered that the distrust in our institutions was also caused by propaganda, and that in general they are run by good people who do a decent job?

      Tell me you’re a rich cracker without telling me

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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      6 days ago

      I have only ever considered that our institutions are good and that critiques of them are the product of enemy propaganda, because my mind is extremely powerful and I operate it with wisdom and intelligence. Have you ever considered that I am right and it is you who are the one that is wrong?

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      6 days ago

      Was Rogan ever “in” the “coalition”? all the people I knew were indifferent at best. Just kind of a “not the target demographic” thing.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        6 days ago

        Absolutely not lmao. He was a gullible libertarian dipshit who platformed fascists.

      • TheDrink [he/him]
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        6 days ago

        He was never considered "in the coalition." When Bernie went on his show there was a huge argument among lefties online about whether it was good that Bernie was doing outreach to convert conservative-leaning men or bad that he was tacitly endorsing those viewpoints.

        • M68040 [they/them]
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          6 days ago

          I don’t personally blame him for trying. Probably more likely to pay out than going on Fox or whatever.

          The idea that Rogan is someone the left “lost” reminds me of the insinuation that the dems “lost” the tech corps. They were never on anyone’s side but their own, and politics shouldn’t revolve around pleasing them.

          • GoodGuyWithACat [he/him]
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            5 days ago

            Probably more likely to pay out than going on Fox or whatever.

            Bernie did a town hall on Fox and it went pretty well for him. If you can communicate leftist ideas (being generous to Bernie) to regular people without media interference, they are usually perceptive.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      5 days ago

      These people need to drink some raw water for a few months and then see if they still whine so much about purity tests.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        5 days ago

        I remember when certain people I knew mistook Joe Rogan as part of the coalition, as opposed to a platform of convenience since Bernie was literally being denied airtime on every other mainstream platform.

        But then again, I though Bernard was a serious progressive politician at that time, and not another hack in a suit.

        • Hestia [she/her, love/loves]
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          5 days ago

          He had some ideas that could've been perceived as "left wing" by liberals who also think they're "left wing"

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 days ago

      Have you perhaps considered that the distrust in our institutions was also caused by propaganda, and that in general they are run by good people who do a decent job?

      My doctor whenever I have a problem: "I don't care, here is a prescription, this consultation lasted 5 minutes but I am going to charge your insurance for 30 minutes"

      My insurance whenever I have a problem: "We will give you your claim money, in 2 months"

      The police: "You forgot to turn on your bike lights, here is a 60 euro fine"

      My apartment manager: "Half our shit doesn't work, your floors are constantly being damaged by leaking water. We won't fix any of it"

      and I could go on and on.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        Every authority figure you interact with is Russian and/or Chinese, actually.